why conary is interesting in itself is a separate topic that i'd like to frame
more as "why do we want to use conary on top of fedora instead of just using
fedora as it is"

this should not be about conary features. but about benefits that come from our
work to fedora as a whole, even if they don't use conary:

here is what i have so far:

* the process finds bugs in fedora and fedora packages that we report back.
  we could use this on rawhide to test packages before they are released.

* conary finds more dependencies and can ensure that all dependencies are met.
  these can be reported to improve fedora packages.

* conary keeps all packages in revision control, so every version of every
  package released will remain available for the future. this helps server
  users who need to downgrade individual packages after an upgrade broke their
  server. (this issue is currently being discussed in the Fedora Server WG)

any others?

can we make a list of issues reported?

mkj: could you possibly share some email conversations you had about bugs you 
found.
including current fedora but also centOS since some issues there may have made
it into fedora as well.  you can send that to me privately. 
i'd like to make a picture of things reported. and what impact that had. not
really listing them in the talk, but give an overview of maybe how many issues
were found and what classes of issues those were and possibly mention an
example or two.

greetings, martin.

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