Optimize, yes, and make it as automatic as possible, but not
remove/impede the ability to manually configure, and especially not
trade human readable flat files for cryptic things like gconf when
there's not much of an advantage (and it's still not automatic), but
that's not really on topic.

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Ken VanDine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 08:05 -0400, Jack Doerner wrote:
>> A few comments:
>>
>> We need to be careful as well not to over stereotype the userbase (or
>> userbase to be)
>>
>> For "Keeping hands tied", I understand (I think, I could be wrong)
>> exactly what this means, and it's more a problem with advancing
>> packages than distros (though certainly it is a distro problem too).
>> Power-user friendly (odd phrase, that one) tends to be more file-in,
>> file-out, 100% human readable config, where everything has
>> standardized places and functions making it easy to dig into the guts
>> of the system. Yes, like gentoo.... Then things like gconf come along
>> and make it much harder for that type of person, without making it any
>> easier for anyone else (can you tell I dislike gconf?). Limiting
>> options is also a big issue, but this one seems to get overlooked.
>>
>> On a separate note, for the new users, it would be very helpful to
>> have an admin app that allows you to edit config files or values in
>> config files that do not have graphical front-ends (and even some of
>> those that do). Make sure that people are warned though!
>>
>>
>
> Configuration in general is going the way of the dodo bird.  Ideally we
> want to be configuration free, completely dynamic.  I understand we
> aren't there yet, and we need to provide utilities for those things that
> aren't smart enough yet.  Xorg is getting closer with every release, but
> I fear it will be a while.  Most other core stuff can work fine without
> any configuration, there are still some outside cases that require
> tweaking.  We need to optimize for the desired future, not for how
> things were in the 1990s.
>
> --Ken
>
>



-- 
 Jack Doerner

 There are worse crimes than burning books
 One of them is not reading them.
 -Joseph Brodsky
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