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It seems to me that the essence of what was requested has been captured.
However the original comment to this thread related to a released Write
request that may contain LBAs that when written would then overwrite data
that from a system point of view had subsequently been written using the FUA
command. The standard should not be silent about this as there are many
applications that could very usefully use this command beside the one MS had
in mind.

The standard should cover the situation where write data with overlapping
LBAs with that of the FUA command is in its buffer when the FUA comes in.

It should warn explicitly that the host shall ensure that any released
commands with overlapping LBAs to an upcoming FUA are serviced before
issuing the FUA. 

Tony Goodfellow
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Curtis and Hale,

    Also, to expand upon this.  I think Hale's point is the proposal put
forth by Nita didn't contain the QUEUE FUA or QUEUE FUA EXT commands and he
was wondering where they were added or how they were proposed. My memory was
this was discussed and added at the June 2002 meetings.  That is why I was
wondering if anyone else remembered these discussions.  I remember
discussing all of this stuff (even Andre's comments about the FUA blowig
away the queue) but for some reason it just wasn't captured very well in the
minutes.

Gary Laatsch
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> Hale
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>     I was there during the discussions and there was no secret committee.
> Basically, MS stated that they wanted to force meta data to the drive
> without blowing the que.  This means that although it is possible to lose
> data, in their application data loss would not occur...
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> > This message is from the T13 list server.
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> > I'm curious why there are no comments about the question of the
> > origin of the WRITE DMA QUEUED FUA command (where is the proposal?).
> > And why no comments on QUEUED EXT commands with large sector counts.
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> > Is this because all these discussions must take place via the "secret
> > society"?
> >
> > Hale
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