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Gary

    As I recall, there were some inacuracies in the proposals as made to the
committee.  There were many revisions.  The only new FUA commands that make
sense are the queued ones.  All others could be followed by flush cache.

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The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face...
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> Curtis and Hale,
>
>     Also, to expand upon this.  I think Hale's point is the proposal put
> forth by Nita didn't contain the QUEUE FUA or QUEUE FUA EXT commands and
he
> was wondering where they were added or how they were proposed. My memory
was
> this was discussed and added at the June 2002 meetings.  That is why I was
> wondering if anyone else remembered these discussions.  I remember
> discussing all of this stuff (even Andre's comments about the FUA blowig
> away the queue) but for some reason it just wasn't captured very well in
the
> minutes.
>
> Gary Laatsch
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> > Hale
> >
> >     I was there during the discussions and there was no secret
committee.
> > Basically, MS stated that they wanted to force meta data to the drive
> > without blowing the que.  This means that although it is possible to
lose
> > data, in their application data loss would not occur...
> >
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> > Curtis E. Stevens
> > 29 Dewey
> > Irvine, Ca 92620
> >
> > Home: (949) 552-4777
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> > The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the
> face...
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hale Landis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "T13 List Server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Subject: [t13] hmmm.. no comments?
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> > > I'm curious why there are no comments about the question of the
> > > origin of the WRITE DMA QUEUED FUA command (where is the proposal?).
> > > And why no comments on QUEUED EXT commands with large sector counts.
> > >
> > > Is this because all these discussions must take place via the "secret
> > > society"?
> > >
> > > Hale
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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