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I think we should be VERY CAUTIOUS about talking about removing or
obsoleting or redefining ANY of these bits.

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(word 128, bit 0)  was intended to be a copy of (word 82, bit 1)
(word 128, bit 1)  was intended to be a copy of (word 85, bit 1)
Why ?
      so that a BIOS (for example) can look IN ONE PLACE to find the full
security status.

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The manner in which word 85, bit 1 is set/cleared is well documented

(ref: ATA8-ACS, rev 1f,       IDENTIFY DEVICE, page 92 (print) / page 110
(pdf):

   If bit 1 of word 85 is set to one, the Security Mode feature set has
   been enabled via the SECURITY SET
   PASSWORD command. If bit 1 of word 85 is cleared to zero, the Security
   Mode feature set has been
   disabled via the SECURITY DISABLE PASSWORD command.
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On the other hand, it WOULD be nice if the SECURITY SET PASSWORD and
SECURITY DISABLE PASSWORD commands mentioned that they have these
'side effects' in IDENTIFY DEVICE.

Thank You !!!
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A suggestion was made that W128/b1 may refer to the states in the security
state transition diagram. If so, W85/b1 and W128/b1 are not redundant in
that they may indeed have different values (W128/b1 changing as a result of
executing various SECURITY commands). However, W82/b0 and W128/b0 must mean
the same (the support for the Security Mode feature set), so they are
indeed redundant.

But what is still missing is what changes W85/b1. SET FEATURES? How? And
even if so, assuming that W82/b1=1 AND W128/b0=1, then W85/b1=0 AND
W128/b1=1 should be illegal.

Thoughts?

Mladen Luksic
Western Digital


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In reading ATA/ATAPI-7 there are 2 sets of security enabled bits, on in
word 85 bit 1 and another in word 128 bit 1.  I also noted that there are
redundant implemented bits as well, but that is not my question…

There is nothing in these bits that denotes what Security Enabled means.  I
believe that some of the bits in word 128 are actually referring to states
in the security state transition diagrams.  Its just not clear…


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