Bipin Gautam wrote:
> On 6/9/07, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> i dunno why how i can spend 1-2 lakhs on freedom toaster.. can't figure..
>> must be cheaper i guess.. the major cost might be a better DVD/CD writer..
>> better to have 2 .. CD writer for only CDs and DVD RW for only DVDs.. if
>> that aids to the life span of that...
>>
>> CPU doesn't need to be fast..  since its  going to be a single user computer
>> doing specialized task.. ok unless we want to have a dynamic updating
> 
> but using a outdated hardware isnt good either. I suggest to make sure
> anyone from nepal can download it from the Internet within NPIX. (as
> it will be connected to Internet anyways)
> 
> 
> 
> Expected life: 5 years with hardware maintenance.
> 
> We should be using Raid 6: ( go figure out why, or argue with me some other 
> day)
> 
> Price of a 220 GiB sata ~= 7000 rs
> Per raid 6 array would cost 7000x4 ~= 28000 rs
> storage == 220x2 == 440 GiB
> 
> 440 GiB is sufficient as a start but if you look forward for few years
> you will realize over 100 GiB will be filled with just versions of
> Debian. So i suggest everyone to aim for 1 TB or slightly more if you
> guys are going to WRITE REAL PROPOSAL AND HOPING TO BE REALLY FUNDED
> AND EXPECTING TO USE THE MACHINE IN REAL FUTURE.
> 
> so i was thinking of;
> 440 GiB X 3 == 1.2890625 TB
> 28000 X 3 ~= 84000 rs
> 
> As a backup. Expect to change the DVD-RW once or twice a year. (And we
> will need two of those)
> 
> so be easy on the price. Expect Electrical failures and other
> component failures are part of future. You would wanna have a certain
> budget for that.
> 
> another ~ 30 thousand for low end pc with few cameras to keep security logs ;)
> 
> A good (secure) housing for the hardware with proper cooling (30-50
> thou?), inverter(15000), electricity cost...
> 300 watt(/hr) X 24 ==7.2 unit x~ 6 rs =~ 43rs/day x 365 == 15700 rs
> (electricity cost... unless  the local electricity authority agrees to
> sponsor it)
> 
> you guys do the adding.....
> 
> regards,
> -bipin

RAID is handled transparently in Debian.

http://www.freedomtoaster.org/?q=node/72 gives us the specification but
that doesn't mean it has to be according to the specs. Remember this is
a machine that shoule be actually *whatever* we can afford.

Plenty of RAM, Hard disk, Internet, and a good set of CD/DVD writer
should do for now (All these stuff can be get if someone authorative
figure from foss nepal can contact NGOs/KU/other organisations for
donated hardware).

Where are all the KU guys. All i hear talking in this mailing list are
fossian regulars.

Bipin: if you are worried about raid levels,
http://xtronics.com/reference/SATA-RAID-debian-for-2.6.html, aka the
mdadm software handles raid0-12 on SATA devices on debian.

Let's not worry too much about implementation at this stage.
The important thing to worry are IMO -
1. How to get those commodity parts.
2. Setup FT hardware team.
3. Setup FT software team.
4. Internet problem.

There could be more.
Another note, Manish Regmi ji also showed interest in it so please
welcome him! :)

Cheers.




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