On 6/9/07, Prasanna Gautam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The thing is having  it connected to internet will kill the spirit of
> freedom toaster.. because anyone who can download wud have already
> downloaded the files.. distros..

NO! (arr... i hate to argue....... because when i do sometimes there
are friends the other side. Take this argument just as n intellectual
discussion ;)

I thought spirit of "freedom toaster" is OSS made EASILY ACCESSIBLE
and FREE. For people within Nepal (and not necessarily within KTM
only) i may be busy to go visit (say) MPP and do the burning but
instantly download it and use it from my home using high speed
download for local traffic using NPIX.


----[quote from website]------
Freedom Toasters are preloaded to dispense free digital products,
including software, photography, music and literature.

The Freedom Toaster project began as a means of overcoming the
difficulty in obtaining Linux and Open Source software due to the
restrictive telecommunications environment in South Africa, where the
easy downloading of large pieces of software is just not possible for
everyone.
Freedom Toaster has been shortlisted for the following award:
----[/quote]------

mark the word "overcoming the difficulty in obtaining Linux and Open
Source software "  SEE THATS THE SPRIT OF FREEDOM TOSTER. NOTHING
MORE!
For many, downloading from the Internet may be difficult, for some
visiting the "freedom toaster" location may be little more difficult
and for some downloading straight from the freedom toaster maybe very
easy. LET THE USERS HAVE THE OPTION. Lets compare the stats. If very
few people from nepal are downloading we could discontinue it.
Please do remember there are villages outside KTM with internet in nepal.


>we'll need some support from
> ISPs for sure for sth like that..
> if we don't put it on the internet.. we'll be saving on some of the major
> costs.. unless of course we have some good funding..
>

your point contradicts with one another. Firstly you say.... we need
support from ISP to get latest builds (and to make the process as easy
as possible) I suppose remote log on, remote upload to freedom
toster...... afterall it would be impossible for the mantainer to
visit the
toster and upload avery new builds in DVD manually. Connecting it to
internet with a webserver means we'll know what the users want. users
can discuss instead of getting only what the MANTAINER wants.

secondly you say it will cot you.

for automation (upload) you need to connect it to some Nepalese ISP at
lest. If its connected to an ISP if nepal its already available to
anyone within nepal whose local bandwidth route through NPIX at zero
EXTRA cost.

http://npix.net.np


thanks,
-bipin

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