Hello Mahabir dai,

I think you misunderstood by suggestion, " I am proposing to do VC in local
Intranet because it is very expensive to use Internet for VC in Nepal at
least for now." This is what I am really looking forward to. Streaming video
through intranet rather internet.

For training, I am sure guys out there are serious about it. And will talk
to guys.

Regards
Akash Deep Shakya



On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Mahabir Pun <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello bhai,
>
> I thought Foss Nepal is really serious about doing what it says it is
> serious for. And it seems like it is not. I have been asking FOSS to train
> some of our local staff on Linux without any gain. If you don;t do what you
> say, then it is meaningless to say something.  FOSS is advocating for the
> use of open source software and I am also proposing to develop VC using open
> source. Why do we use expensive proprietary software if we can do it by
> ourselves?
>
> Yes, I know the challenges of doing VC over wireless network. The
> challenges can't be overcome if you don;t face it hard. There are always
> chances for failing. But it will be worth trying and that is what I am
> proposing to all the technical wizards. It is upon you to decide whether to
> participate in it.
>
> I know the alternative of using educational DVDs in case we fail in it.
> Using skype, chat etc also need Internet bandwidth. I am proposing to do VC
> in local Intranet because it is very expensive to use Internet for VC in
> Nepal at least for now.
>
> Thanks. Sorry for this response.
>
> Mahabir
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Akash Deep Shakya <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This was one thing I have always tried and dreamed of doing with our
>> e-libraries projects, but due to lack of funding and many other reasons
>> could not really work out.
>>
>> Taking into account the scenario of Nepal and the resources available, if
>> we just rely on communication medium such as ethernet to transmit high
>> bandwidth content such as video then we must be missing something, as these
>> will definitely run over UDP and we will definitely lose data on the way.
>>
>> My suggestion would be preparing a well constructed set of video for
>> education, health, etc  (which I pressume have been already made by various
>> distributor in kathmandu, saw a lot of dvd in KTM market for SLC etc.) and
>> deploying these video to the destination. Only updates will
>> be transferred over a reliable channel. For all other live conferencing etc.
>> Using P2P communication protocol would be good idea, skype would be good
>> example of such software, but would not prefer using it, as it is under
>> proprietary boundary.
>>
>> http://tinychat.com/
>>
>> would be one option, and for geolocation, we can either use twitter API
>> for geo location or even google latitude is there.
>>
>> Just to summarize, if we are thinking of taking classes sitting in KTM to
>> guys in Jomsom, at runtime, than I don't think its realistic considering the
>> resources available. But sending in the video tapes and timely updates, and
>> chatting through an IRC, tinychat for queries would be good way to go ahead.
>> That's how open University around the world works as well.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Akash Deep Shakya
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Hempal Shrestha <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear FOSSians,
>>>
>>> In continuation to my previous message in this regard, this is a request
>>> email from Mahabir Pun himself. Please do convey directly to him (Mahabir
>>> dai and Rajendra ji) for both suggestions and volunteer positions.
>>>
>>> With thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Hempal Shrestha
>>>
>>> ************
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Mahabir Pun <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:15 PM
>>> Subject: About developing video conferencing software
>>>
>>> Hello Friends,
>>>
>>> Many of you might know that I am desperately trying to develop video
>>> conferencing system for a few years for tele-teaching. I am not doing it for
>>> fun but to meet the dire shortage of qualified teachers (Science, Math and
>>> English) in rural schools. Moreover, we are also planning to provide health
>>> training to the rural health workers by some doctors living in Kathmandu
>>> through tele- health training as well. I am talking to the government to
>>> start a pilot project for rural health training through video conferencing.
>>> Therefore, multi-destination video conferencing is greatly needed. However,
>>> buying proprietary software is not economically possible for our project.
>>> Therefore we need to use open source.
>>>
>>> Right now we are working on two open source software  - BigBlueButton and
>>> Open Meeting. Some students from Kathmandu University are working on Open
>>> Meeting. I am working on BigBlueButton.  have installed BigBlueButton open
>>> source software in a dedicated server in local network in Pokhara and tested
>>> it. I have attached a screenshot of the testing I did two days ago. In the
>>> photo you can see the photos of three guys in the video conference meeting
>>> and I am giving a power point presentation to them. The photo in the middle
>>> with people trying to push a rock was the power point slide. The three guys
>>> in the meeting were at different districts (Nangi, Jomsom, Ghandruk, which
>>> are at an air distance of approx. 40, 85, and 22 KM far from Pokhara in 3 to
>>> 5 hops) and were connected through wireless. I was in Pokhara. Also you can
>>> see the chat box, where we can do chatting. The web camera can be turned off
>>> and on as needed.
>>>
>>> Except the voice, everything worked fine. There is lots of delay in the
>>> voice and we need to work on that. I will test the conferencing system at
>>> least in 16 sites. We need to customize it in different ways to meet our
>>> needs.
>>>
>>> I am forming a team in Kathmandu and Pokhara from graduate and
>>> undergraduate students of Kathmandu University and Pokhara University. We
>>> are looking for programmers, computer scientists, supervisors interested to
>>> help us for this project. If you are interested or if you know anybody, or
>>> if there is any other way you can support, please let me know. I will tell
>>> how you can help. We will have to set up working place in Kathmandu and
>>> Pokhara for the software development if necessary. Right now we don;t have
>>> funding for office set up, but I will try to what I can do.
>>>
>>> I have also attached a Google Earth photo of the sites where we will test
>>> the video conferencing for tele-teaching and tele- health training.
>>>
>>> Also please suggest if you have any other open source software in mind.
>>>
>>> Mahabir Pun
>>> ***********
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Hempal Shrestha <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> This is a request  (message below) that was forwarded to me by Rajendra
>>>> Poudel from ENRD, who have been working on  Nepal Wireless Project along
>>>> with Mahabir Pun. As per the preliminary discussions, this is a kind of IT
>>>> volunteers with basic stipend support. Just in case you want me to connect
>>>> you with them or know more about the work, please do not hesitate to write
>>>> to me. You can directly contact with  Mahabir dai himself or Rajendra ji
>>>> (sooner the best), the contact details are;
>>>>
>>>> *[email protected]*
>>>>
>>>> *[email protected]*
>>>>
>>>> Office telephone : 977-1-4428090 (Mr. Rajendra Poudel)
>>>>
>>>> Mob : 9841-592361 (Dr. Mahabir Pun)
>>>>
>>>> With Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Hempal Shrestha
>>>>
>>>> ******************
>>>>
>>>> Vacancies for the IT professional volunteers to develop Multi-casting,
>>>> Multi-destination web based video conferencing system
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  E-Network Research and Development (ENRD) is a non-profit organization
>>>> working for expanding Nepal wireless networking project started by 
>>>> Himanchal
>>>> School, Nangi. Since 2001. Thanks goes to international volunteers who have
>>>> significantly supported and contributed since from the starting of building
>>>> wireless network in the mountain. Not only building of physical
>>>> infrastructure but ENRD has been equally given importance to develop 
>>>> various
>>>> applications such as tele-teaching, tele-medicine including with local
>>>> e-business which are useful tools for the social delivery services. Since
>>>> from the starting ENRD has been gathering all the university students,
>>>> academia and professional researchers to build such system from one desk.
>>>>
>>>> This time also ENRD is planning to customize open source multi-casting;
>>>> multi-destination web based video conferencing system by the huge
>>>> participation of national / international researchers, technology
>>>> practitioner, IT professionals, and university academia and college
>>>> students.
>>>>
>>>> There are many open source web based web applications available in the
>>>> market they can be customized according to our needs and requirements. For
>>>> example you can see them in the given link.
>>>>
>>>> *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_conferencing_software*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_conferencing_software>
>>>>
>>>> ENRD is planning to customize such application to achieve following
>>>> goals.
>>>>
>>>>    1.
>>>>
>>>>    User friendly end user Interface with localized version.
>>>>    2.
>>>>
>>>>    Decrease the existing delay in audio and video transmission during
>>>>    the time of live conference.
>>>>    3.
>>>>
>>>>    Decrease the bandwidth consumption from the application side.
>>>>    4.
>>>>
>>>>    Integrate the white board features in the system.
>>>>    5.
>>>>
>>>>    Improve the scalability features in the system for many users.
>>>>
>>>> More information about the application can be seen from here
>>>>
>>>> *http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/FAQ*
>>>>
>>>> If any person is interested to apply in these positions should have
>>>> following skills.
>>>>
>>>>    1.
>>>>
>>>>    Basic skill to play with Ubuntu Linux Operating system , web server
>>>>    and bash/Perl etc scripting
>>>>    2.
>>>>
>>>>    Advance level of skill on HTML5 and CSS
>>>>    3.
>>>>
>>>>    Medium level of skill on web based application JAVA programming,
>>>>    PHP/MySQL, etc.
>>>>    4.
>>>>
>>>>    Medium level of Knowledge on SIP, ASTRIK and VoIP.
>>>>    5.
>>>>
>>>>    Knowledge on Multimedia such as audio, video encoding is
>>>>    recommended.
>>>>
>>>> The project period is divided in total 3rd phase (total 7 months)
>>>>
>>>> First Phase – 2 months (Research, System design and analysis)
>>>>
>>>> Second Phase- 2 months (Coding)
>>>>
>>>> Third Phase -3 months (debugging and implementation, development of
>>>> manual)
>>>>
>>>> Volunteer should work under the guide line prepared by project
>>>> coordinator and should have capability of self study by surfing internet,
>>>> such as collect related information, and participate with many online
>>>> discussions groups to gain knowledge for developing the system.
>>>>
>>>> Upon the necessity the organization will organize online/offline or
>>>> hands on training on the advance issues.
>>>>
>>>> Position name: Volunteer, Team Member
>>>>
>>>> Venue of work: ENRD office at Lazimpat, Kathmandu
>>>>
>>>> Time of work: Daily 8 hours (including 1 hour Lunch time)
>>>>
>>>> Holidays: Government Holidays
>>>>
>>>> Volunteer support cost will be provided according to the roles and skill
>>>> level of the team members.
>>>>
>>>>    1.
>>>>
>>>>    Assistance team member – NRs. 7000:00
>>>>    2.
>>>>
>>>>    Team member – NRs. 8000:00
>>>>
>>>> No other services or facilities will be offered from the project.
>>>>
>>>> *Note: After successfully completion of the project: Team members
>>>> (volunteers) will be awarded by the certificate of achievement from the
>>>> implementing organization. *
>>>>
>>>> ******************
>>>>
>>>
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