Dear Prakash,

It seems that we are not taking care about the language and localization
related problems,
but devising an event Hackathon on it. I am writing this all with the
experience of a decade
in computation of Language related problems.
What could be the outcome, or what we expect after this event ?? My wish is
: Some people
who is going to organize this event should aware of the question and the
related problem on it.

Thank you.
Santa


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Prakash Neupane <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Santa
>
> Thanks for rising the genuine concern of Hackathon happening these days in
> Nepal.
>
> For little bit clarity, we are planning to do one very focused hackathon,
> specially for helping to localize our next coming Nepalinux. Where the
> participants (no need to have tech, instead anyone having knowledge of
> Nepali Typing and Nepali Language and enthusiasm of supporting Open Source/
> Open Knowledge ) can put the effort to make it.
>
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Santa Basnet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am not much familiar with this sort of events but I got chance to see
>> the last Hackathon organized at KU few months ago.
>>
>> I have visited numerous stall and project's room there and were almost
>> the imitation of projects laying around internet.
>>
>> This makes the participants  lack to realize the problems associated with
>> and to address the solution to it.
>>
>>
>> I would like to suggest, this type of activity should focus on the
>> fundamental problems in a particular domain of
>>
>> computation (*computation is the problem solving by algorithmic means*).
>>
>>
>> For example, someone have developed a project titled "*what you see*"
>> which allows user to post every events, memory in online
>>
>>  during Hackathon at KU. It was hosted in a server and was some sort of
>> php code which allows you to upload texts, images,
>>
>>  videos etc. The fundamental problem I found is, how they transform the
>> term "*you see*" to that PHP code, are they addressing
>>
>>  "*you see*" properly ?? Another fundamental problem, the data
>> organization for every user. They do not see any problem on it.
>>
>>
>> Consider there were 1000 users (very tiny in an online application), and
>> each user generates 10 to 20 contents(data) each day.
>>
>> How does the software organizes the data for individual users?? Because,
>> some data are useful for particular users only. And so on ...
>>
>>
>> So, how does the participants identify the problem during Hackathon ???
>>
>> and what could be the evaluation criteria? Which matters significantly to
>> the success of the event.
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> Santa
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Bal Krishna Bal <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, a training session covering general tips on do's and don'ts within
>>> the hackathon program would be useful. I can share some of the training
>>> materials based on prior experiences.
>>> Regards,
>>> Bal Krishna
>>> On May 28, 2014 7:45 AM, "Saroj Dhakal" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I support Avash it'd better to have a training before going but what if
>>>> if we have a session in the hackathon itself ? Most of the geek community
>>>> still think that Localization is trivial, localization is not challenging
>>>> task  and lack of language aptitude is another factor .
>>>>
>>>> Those who are working in localization are working in some disjoint
>>>> groups . I think this kind of hackathon is certainly going to help keep us
>>>> together .
>>>>
>>>> Given that the hackathon will be in June in some weekend I can
>>>> contribute some of the time , helping organize it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Saroj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Avash Mulmi <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Prabin dai,
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea is good. But before that we need to ensure that the
>>>>> participants of the Localization Sprint know what they are doing.
>>>>> Many people are interested in localization, but the problem I saw was
>>>>> they had problem with Nepali typing.
>>>>> And those good with Nepali typing had problem with the strings.
>>>>> During the localization there comes some strings which need not be
>>>>> translated, they are being translated as well.
>>>>> Also, I have seen the problem of doing word to word translation
>>>>> instead of translating contextually.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, before organizing a localization sprint itself, lets organize a
>>>>> half day training on the area maybe? I can work for/from the localization
>>>>> of Firefox, (ideas, formats etc.) And help with other general stuffs
>>>>> for/during the event as long as I don't have exams.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
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