कुरो बल्ल आयो खुलेर। It happens. Communication should be done. It gives clear view how to act, when to act, why to act.
I have heard from our old members who were once most active, now-a-days passive, that FOSS Nepal Community is rigid and we can't do nothing from the community. So some times some member can't achieve what they are dreaming of the community. Its not rigid or hate or something like that, Its about protecting norms. Under norms everyone can agree, else there are other option too, being in one of the FOSS spectrum and performing. See again "find a place in the tune". Lets Create Share Collaborate. I request if events could go live online via any means. Regards ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>¸. Mr. Sagar Chhetri *www.sagarchhetri.com.np* <http://www.sagarchhetri.com.np> *www.chitwanix.com* <http://www.chitwanix.com> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 2:38 PM, kapil nakhwa <[email protected]> wrote: > Man , > That escalated quickly . :D :D :D . > Alright guys , I'm supposed to be presenting a talk on " software > engineering as a profession" on Developers Nepal. I intended to talk about > lack of ethics we profess too and compare our professionalism with other > professional disciplines in the country. I'd like to include some > excerpts from these emails in my talk with all due respect . Do I get an > all hands up for it ? > > Thanks. > > > > > On Dec 8, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Prashish Rajbhandari <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thank you guys! I really appreciate the honest and passionate response. > > First of all I would like to clear out a few confusions that I introduced > and I take the blame for it. Please bear with me if I go little aboard. > > Developers Meetup is organized by an independent group of volunteers who > are, by no means related or affiliated to MIC Nepal. We had a brief > discussion on when the event should take place and by chance it collided > with the FOSS event on Dec 10th. The JavaScript Meetup (KTMJS Meetup) was > suppose to be around the same time, so it was decided that either one of > them should be pre-poned/postponed because it doesn't make sense to > organize events back to back. Again, both of these events are independently > organized by volunteers. The past few venues have been at various colleges > & companies and they were chosen based on who was willing to host the event > at that time.KTMJS was hosted by Logpoint. The venue organizers have no > role in the selected date nor the any aspect of the meetup. > > The meetup on Dec 10th is an informal meetup among all developers in the > community. Since it is done by independent volunteers who devote their time > and energy, there is no 'formal' invitation letter, which was mentioned in > the email, given to any developer community. They can be in the form of a > Facebook post invitation or just an email saying - "Hey! There is this cool > meetup happening. Please join us." > > Now back to why I replied with that I did. It is not the first time there > has been a backlash when the venue was MIC. I think it was back in January > 2016 during one of the KTMJS meetup and it was also received with 'venue is > a problem'. I know the history between the two entities have been fierce in > the past and there is a huge philosophical difference. But just the > sentiment towards them in a meetup which they aren't even a part of, > bothered me in general. And hence the rant which looked like I'm the > biggest Microsoft supporter :P which I'm *NOT*! > > I hope I've cleared all the confusion about the meetup and let's just stop > it here. > > Prashish > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Sagar Chhetri <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Microsoft is learning FOSS in global scenario with crazy aggressiveness >> and wants to secure good stake in rapid pace as well as >> sustainable engagement inside FOSS communities and foundations except >> http://www.openinventionnetwork.com to the safest level it feels. >> We can see the investments (sponsorship), projects (highest in >> Github) all around. Its impressive the way Microsoft is adapting FOSS for >> whatever reason behind, its upon them and its the freedom they can enjoy. >> (High Time). >> >> *# Please jump to dotted line if you like hate comments only.#* >> >> Global community of FOSS is welcoming the move and is in the mode of wait >> and see. Same in Nepal as well. Avas Mulmi did visualize the laxman rekha >> which I also agree. >> >> Lets talk about organizing meet-ups and events collaboration and blame >> about FOSS Nepal ignorance to MIC. >> >> *Some thing what I learn as a FOSS member:* >> 1. FOSS Nepal member work on their own mood and interest around the norms >> of FOSS. When mood and interest combined then something interesting and >> crazy positive change happens. So does FOSS Nepal as everything happens in >> the melody. To collaborate we should be in this tune. Seems too much moody. >> 2. FOSS Nepal have moral supports for every events and communities who >> work around FOSS norms. If invited it will take part actively and >> contribute accordingly to the extent of its available resources. >> 3. Every community can have their own ideology regarding organizing >> events of their own and FOSS Nepal respects that. Members are free to join >> and participate to any level of those events, simply no objection. If they >> are participating as FOSS Nepal member, FOSS Norms are to be respected by >> the beholder. >> 4. FOSS Nepal can collaborate to any one who believes in the norms of >> FOSS. For specific interest they can match themselves with the members from >> the FOSS spectrum (Model) they are in and communicate accordingly. >> 5. FOSS Nepal doesnot focus in a single community. ie. GNU/Linux * - Red >> Hat / Ubuntu / Chitwanix / LTSP / Mozilla / Android / Wordpress / Joomla / >> PHP / Open Street Map / College Community / ...... / M$ etc. Every one are >> the part of FOSS spectrum in which level of Freedom they believe in. >> 6. FOSS Nepal exist upto now because of its norms and the way it behaves. >> Monetary and Physical resources were never the barrier to organize events >> and meetups. So does BSOD are popular for larger to small level events. >> Every event are planned to be organized with free entrance and >> participation with no hidden fees. >> 7. FOSS Nepal can't compromise its major events for the sake of other >> community events. >> >> *Ignorance to MIC by FOSS Nepal* >> *1. SFD ignorance - * >> Every member was busy around to make sfd 2016 successful event. And there >> are lots of things to do in regular basic rather than giving one community >> event priority. In every sfd, expectation are high from the community >> member about the event. I haven't heard NOSK/OSM/OSAC/FOSS >> Chitwan complaining FOSS Nepal is ignoring their event. They organize their >> events in parallel some time collaborating to each other. Again depends >> upon the mood melody. >> *2. Developer Meetup Case happening right now: * >> - Seems the bsod meetup was discussed by POC and venue time was fixed >> already with whatever resource available and event was called. This is not >> the ignorance to MIC neither to other community. Even if MIC member or >> participant want to participate, they are welcome. >> - I haven't seen any official invitation from MIC developer meetup >> organizer for FOSS Nepal or any information from POC about the MIC >> event, So picking the same word, ignorance came from MIC. In our words >> communication gap from MIC. >> >> *For Future Events:* >> A. Invite us formally on mailing list (1-2 Week Prior to Event) or you >> can discuss with any of the POC. Find details in FOSS Nepal website. >> B. Describe FOSS Nepal role in your event and how we can help you to make >> your event successful. Please remember to be around FOSS norms. >> C. To be the part of FOSS Nepal events, please follow our mailing list >> regularly for upcoming events. Participate as in any Level as participant, >> presentation, stalls, sponsor, supporter. POC will also contact appropriate >> community for the events. >> D. Co-Organizing: I haven't heard about ever FOSS Nepal became >> co-organizer any where other events. I hope in future it will if the event >> is under full FOSS Norms. >> E. Resource Person from FOSS Nepal. Generally every one is available for >> free on their free time as FOSS Nepal most program are fees less. Thanx for >> their generosity. Resource person have the freedom to deal this topic. (On >> my context I prefer 1 Mustang Coffee 1 qns. If paid event we can negotiate.) >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> P.S.: Artha ko anartha nalagos. >> Naya Jogi Le Kharani Dherai Dhascha. Kharani Dherai dhasera aatma le >> nirwana prapta gardaina, Jogi hunu ko marma aatmasat garnu parch >> By: itsagarbaba (once above statement was implemented by itsagarbaba by >> himself) >> >> >> Regards >> >> ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>¸. >> >> Mr. Sagar Chhetri >> *www.sagarchhetri.com.np* <http://www.sagarchhetri.com.np/> >> *www.chitwanix.com* <http://www.chitwanix.com/> >> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Avash Mulmi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes it is not about you or me. It is about the community that has been >>> formed by our mentors and seniors over the past years with struggles and >>> hardships. >>> >>> It seems someone else is trying to spread their sentiments in probably >>> the one and the only community that hasn't been penetrated and exploited by >>> the Venue Provider yet. I am doing this for the identity and the history >>> that has been created and passed to this generation by our mentors and >>> seniors over the past years. >>> >>> I am willing to take full responsibility and defend against if FOSS >>> Nepal Stays in the 'same old current position' without the collaboration. >>> It was for good. Are you ready to take the responsibility if in the near >>> future the Venue Provider exploits this community too? We have already seen >>> again and again how this Venue Provider works. If only it was a company >>> that supported OpenSource and our actions from the beginning, then it would >>> have been a different story. >>> >>> Not only this Venue Provider, but time and again we have seen/faced how >>> even the 'Neutral Companies' treat the communities in their big 'community' >>> events. We have at times suffered partnering with Neutral Companies. >>> >>> P.S.: I would have answered a bit differently if it was sent by someone >>> who has been involved with the FOSS Nepal Community and its events in Nepal >>> significantly, because s/he would have known/faced the sufferrings and >>> hardships for real in person. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Prashish Rajbhandari < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The reason I said high time is because when MIC Nepal asked for >>>> participation/collaboration/support/partnership (or whatever you'd >>>> like to call it) and FOSS Nepal was completed against it and didn't even >>>> sit down for a talk. I'm sure every stakeholders have their own agendas but >>>> that does not mean you do not participate in working out the differences. I >>>> don't believe in walking our own paths because it is not about you or me, >>>> it is about the betterment of the community as a whole. >>>> >>>> I completely respect your stance! But please don't spread similar >>>> sentiments to other members because they might have a different vision to >>>> move forward with new ideas for participation and collaboration. >>>> >>>> *peace* >>>> Prashish >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Avash Mulmi <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Would like to know why is it high time? Just saying it is high time >>>>> won't actually make it a high time. >>>>> >>>>> And just because M$ International said "We <3 Linux/OpenSource" >>>>> doesn't mean the venue provider here wants the same. And even if they say >>>>> it, they are saying it for their own benefit not the benefit of the >>>>> community. >>>>> >>>>> Each of them have their own goals, visions, missions, philosophies, >>>>> beliefs and members. Please, let each of them walk their own path. >>>>> FOSS Nepal Community is not only about Open Source. We have came a >>>>> long way through different good times, bad times and some worst times too. >>>>> But we have stood strong, created a history, culture and belief, unlike >>>>> some other money minded company/corporations. >>>>> >>>>> Please let both walk on their own path. >>>>> >>>>> I am biased, and I admit it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Prashish Rajbhandari < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think it is high time to set aside the differences and have a >>>>>> common gathering after the meetup. This will really send a great message >>>>>> to >>>>>> the community and help shape future collaborations. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Prashish >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 7, 2016 6:45 AM, "Arjun Gautam" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> OMG, I didn't know about the Developers Meetup there at Microsoft >>>>>>> Innovation Center Nepal. This FOSS Nepal's meetup is kinda very casual >>>>>>> Meetup and I don't think the Developers Nepal meetup is of that >>>>>>> style. So, I don't think its good to merge these two. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arjun >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:22 PM, kapil nakhwa <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> lol how about an after party ? BSOD style FOSS meetup after the dev >>>>>>>> nepal meet up ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Avash Mulmi <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good ta ho, but the venue might be problem? :P >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Roshan Gautam <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes. Good to go with Avinash Kundaliya. Let's meet there Arjun. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 7 December 2016 at 14:16, Avinash Kundaliya < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello arjun ji, and community >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is a Developers Nepal meetup to be organized this saturday. >>>>>>>>>> Probably we can combine and have a larger, bigger, greater, >>>>>>>>>> awesome-er >>>>>>>>>> developers meetup. (this meetup definitely doesn't have the BSOD >>>>>>>>>> component >>>>>>>>>> :D) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Time : 11AM - 2 PM >>>>>>>>>> Location : MIC, Khichapokhari >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> more details are available on the event here : >>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/events/1197828830303947/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Avinash >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/6/16 20:16, Arjun Gautam wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi FOSSians, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I like to inform that we, some of FOSSians have planned a meetup >>>>>>>>>> this coming Saturday (Dec 10). It is a sort of developer meetup. >>>>>>>>>> Simply, >>>>>>>>>> the idea is that we discuss with each other the project we are >>>>>>>>>> working on >>>>>>>>>> and the upcoming plans we have or any ideas we have. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, I request you to join us to make this meetup nice and >>>>>>>>>> successful. I also like to request Entrepreneurs and mentors to join >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> meetup so that it becomes more effective. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The meetup is sort of a casual cafe/restaurant meetup. So, the >>>>>>>>>> idea is that different groups sit around different tables and then >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> start the discussion. It is also a BSOD >>>>>>>>>> <http://wiki.fossnepal.org/index.php?title=BSOD:_a_relaxing_platform> >>>>>>>>>> type >>>>>>>>>> of meetup, that's Buy Self/Own Drinks. So, yeah, I guess its gonna >>>>>>>>>> be fun. >>>>>>>>>> See you there. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Time: 1PM - 3PM >>>>>>>>>> Map / Place: Capital Fast Food, Bagbazar, Kathmandu >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=capital%20fast%20food%20baghbazaar> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Arjun >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Mailing List Guidelines: http://wiki.fossnepal.org/inde >>>>>>>>>> x.php?title=Mailing_List_Guidelines >>>>>>>>>> Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "FOSS Nepal" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Mailing List Guidelines: 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