I have not done extensive research either, however, I would say solve the first problem first.
1. Can we extend the wiki to allow better text formatting? 2. If so, what format would we want to implement? 3. Who will do the implementation? 4. --- Now we can look at libraries --- 4a. Is there a suitable library? How will it integrate? 4b. Do we need to develop our own? Can it be done reasonably in small stages, I.e. bold, italic, typewriter type in one stage. Later lists/nested lists/numbered lists, Later tables, etc... I.e. does it have to be done all at once or can we slowly add to it as time permits. I think researching a library first is the wrong way to go about it. It may be that there is no suitable library, but does that then mean that the need doesn't exist? There may be a suitable library but the idea of a dependency scares everyone off so maybe we need a C source file that does the formatting and can be added too slowly, etc... Jeremy -------------------------------------------------- From: "Will Duquette" <w...@wjduquette.com> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:15 PM To: <fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org> Subject: Re: [fossil-users] The case for Markdown (yes, I rtfm) > Purely out of curiousity, I've glanced at Markdown and Creole, neither > of which I've used. > > The problem with Markdown is that the format as defined simply isn't a > Wiki format. It's Wiki-like, but doesn't include the markup for links > to wiki pages. (There's some kind of linking, but it isn't wiki- > linking.) So if Markdown is used it will be necessary to extend it. > > There appear to be three C implementations of Markdown; one, which I > didn't look at, is only a partial implementation. One, peg-markdown, > is apparently profligate of memory use, but is intended to be easily > extensible. Another, discount, has an API that (to my casual view) > doesn't appear to be tailored for use in a Wiki; changes would be > required. How easy it would be to extend, I dunno. > > Creole, on the other hand, *is* a Wiki syntax, though it's an odd one > (**bold**? //italics//? where did *those* come from?) (Yes, I know > that the Creole site has the rationale for everything.) However, the > list of extant parsers on the Creole web page doesn't include one > written in C. > > At a casual glance, then, neither Markdown nor Creole looks like an > easy drop-in replacement for what we have now. > > (Feel free to prove me wrong; ten minutes of web-browsing doesn't make > me any kind of expert.) > > Will > > > On Nov 29, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Kurtis Rainbolt-Greene wrote: > >> Just to be clear here since there has been some distracting >> arguments made: There is no bikeshedding being done in this thread. >> As proof of point a clear major majority do not care what color the >> bikeshed is (AKA, what format to use) according to my poll. >> >> I see two (major) sides of this conversation: >> >> 1. People who want better formatting, whatever the result. >> 2. People who are worried that everyone else is worried about the >> color of the bikeshed. >> >> The only minority are those who are happy with HTML. Since any >> markdown language allows HTML they really don't factor into this >> topic. >> >> tl;dr quit concern trolling >> >> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Kurtis Rainbolt-Greene >> <thinkwritem...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> Q1: 4 YES | 1 APATHETIC | 2 NO >> Q2: 4 WHATEVER WORKS | 2 HTML | 1 MARKDOWN >> >> PS I said this was specifically for my own curiosity, nothing more. >> Nice try, Zed. >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Zed A. Shaw <zeds...@zedshaw.com> >> wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:05:52PM -0600, Kurtis Rainbolt-Greene >> wrote: >> >> > Also, Zed challenged me to prove that more people want any kind of >> (better) >> > formatting than not: >> > >> > http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDBVZS1CM0M0akFiSlRtUE5CdUdKa2c6MA >> > >> > There's the form link. I am in no way in control of this or any >> part of >> > Fossil. I simply want to see for personal curiosity. >> >> Yay! Evidence! Hooray! Finally, people can now just vote and then >> when >> they're done voting you can dive in and implement it! >> >> (I voted BTW.) >> >> -- >> Zed A. 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