At 06:10 AM 7/31/2010, Joshua Paine wrote:
 >On 07/31/2010 08:09 AM, Dig412 wrote:
 >> Are you planning on releasing the code? This could be really
 >> useful for development shops to run on their own servers to
 >> manage projects.
 > ....
 > If you've got the server access and know-how to install James'
 > app, then surely you can write a 2-line CGI script and drop all
 > your .fossil files in an arbitrary directory. ....

The 2-line cgi script isn't the interesting part. The interesting
part is the surrounding management interface that provides a web
face for creating and cloning new repositories and otherwise
managing the repositories themselves. IMHO, there really is a
value add to that, but it also isn't the sort of thing that
belongs inside of the fossil executable.

After all, SourceForge, GitHub and their ilk are successful
because providing the right amount of administrative capability
over and above the hosted repository makes them useful to people.

I've taken a similar approach myself. I've been working on a
package I've been calling Museum (where else do you find
fossils?) which is consists of native builds of fossil and thttpd
to run in a D-Link DNS-323 NAS box. My plan is to eventually
share this with any interested parties, but it is still in a
pre-alpha works-for-me kind of state at the moment.

Its primary use case in my shop is to provide a self-contained
set of clones of my project work. It needs a web face because the
DNS-323 doesn't naturally provide a console of any sort, or even
a telnet server.

None of the CGI scripting is particularly innovative or even
complicated, other than the goal of requiring as few new ARM
executables as possible both because cross-compilation adds its
own joys, and because there is only a limited amount of room
available in the RAM disk that its linux boots from.

 > If someone built a repo management tool that could manage users
 > across multiple repos and/or do ticket or timeline aggregation,
 > that would be helpful for us "development shops".

That is another piece of integration that is also outside the
scope of the fossil executable. But it certainly would be
valuable to be able to group several related repositories
together in some kind of a unified view. There is a lot to work
out about how that would work in practice, of course. Can you
create a new ticket in that view? Move it from repo to repo? Copy
it? Refer to it in wiki/comment text from a different repo? Clone
the unified view as if it were a single repo?

If anyone is interested in my toy Museum, contact me on or off
list and I will happily push things from pre-alpha to alpha.
Perhaps I should just clone it to chiselapp.com and let the
interested parties have at it?

Ross Berteig                               r...@cheshireeng.com
Cheshire Engineering Corp.           http://www.CheshireEng.com/

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