This is another e-mail on this subject that just strikes me as flawed. These are not vague privacy fears - they are real privacy fears. I see a fundamental failure by those involved in this controversy to understand this point.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Tisza Gergő <[email protected]> wrote: > Robert Rohde <raro...@...> writes: > > > You may not be aware, but the relaying of page view data to third > > party analysis platforms has been tried on a number of occasions in > > the past and consistently shutdown. (I think this even includes cases > > before the Privacy Policy was adopted.) > > > > However, to my recollection there has never been a case that quite > > mirrors yours since we are talking about a privately hosted server > > administered by a highly trusted community member. > > The (WM-DE-owned) toolserver ran a statistics script called WikiCharts for > a few > years, which worked with data relayed by Common.js from several wikipedias, > including de and en. While that is not exactly the same situation (as the > WMF > has access to the toolserver), I think it proves my point that passing IP > data > to an (in the strict organizational sense) third-party server does not > necessarily violate the privacy policy, neither letter nor spirit, as long > as > that server remains within the larger WM community. > > It is important to understand that this is a much more general question > than > that of web statistics: any third-party service that interacts with the > standard > wiki user interface receives private data, whether it needs it or not, > because > the user interface (the HTML page) is "executed" in the user's browser, and > the > browser has to contact the third-party service, and it cannot hide its IP > in > that process. For example, we considered setting up some sort of spell > checking > service for hu.wp. That is something that cannot be done well centrally - > there > is too much difference between languages. And if you do it with a local > server, > it has to communicate with the user's browser, and could in theory log > requests > and correlate them with edits on the wiki, thus it has to conform with the > privacy guidelines. It would be a shame if all such uses would be blindly > forbidden because of vague privacy fears. > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
