On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:54 PM, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote:
> Philippe Beaudette wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:06 AM, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Sue Gardner wrote: > >>> Ah, Sarah, I don't think that's particularly fair. Bear in mind we've > >>> just published a strategic plan that 1,000+ Wikimedians helped create. > >>> I'm not denying that some Wikimedians may feel alienated from the > >>> Wikimedia Foundation: I'm sure it is true for some. But "something in > >>> which we have no input" is, IMO, not a fair characterization. > >> > >> This is an interesting comment given who actually authored the strategic > >> plan. It's my understanding that several people (Eugene, you, Erik, and > >> others) wrote different parts of the report, which were then compiled by > >> people from Bridgespan. Is that accurate? > >> > >> Is there a record of who wrote which parts of the report? It would be > >> particularly interesting to see how much of it came from volunteers. > >> > > She didn't say they sat down and banged out the plan on their IBM > > Selectric. She said they helped create it. That's entirely accurate. > It > > grew from the work of the task forces, research around the proposals, > > research in general... all of those done by volunteers. While the final > > wording may have been "smithed" by a relatively smaller set of people, > the > > first attempt was actually to have community members do that as well. It > > didn't work well - either because it's a task that was poorly facilitated > > (and if so, I'm to blame), or a task that was poorly defined, or simply a > > task that the people who were there weren't interested in doing (and as > > volunteers, that's their right and privilege), the writing had to be > > assigned to a number of people. > > > > I dislike this posts like this one, which (at least from one perspective) > > engage in a game of rhetorical "gotcha". > > So... that's a no? There's no record of who wrote what? I think people in > the community are interested to know how much of the strategic plan came > from various stakeholders, both the ideas and the actual pieces of the > report. If you feel that it's unfair to ask for attribution, I guess we'll > just have to agree to disagree. > > MZMcBride > > I don't think I actually answered that part of the question, because - as I told you privately - I was gone from the project long before then. I simply don't know. But this is further rhetorical "gotcha" - you took my response to one part of your post and tried to twist it to be a non-answer to the other part of your post. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
