On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 17:40 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Dave!
(Are you coming to FOSDEM? We need another of those IRL chats, no?) > Philip Van Hoof wrote: > > I propose to have a vote on GNOME's membership to the GNU project. > > Such a vote, whatever the outcome, would have little effect on the GNOME > project. I'd agree. > The debate during the vote could cause a lot of harm & discord for the > GNOME community. I actually do agree, yes. I don't think being afraid of that is sufficient reason to sidestep this issue We're an intelligent group of people. We can deal with this. > An outcome whereby GNOME is no longer a GNU project could cause a lot of > harm to the free software and open source movements in general - there > would be massive negative publicity. I agree but we cannot be blind when the leader of the Free Software Foundation is requesting that the "minimal" thing GNOME should do, is to support it by, and I quote, "avoiding presenting proprietary software as legitimate". I fully understand that ignoring Richard's request is the easy way. But his request cannot be ignored any longer. He really wants this as a "minimal" commitment from GNOME. No matter what feels good for us. We've been ignoring this for too long. Such a commitment is, as far as I understand our community, not entirely compatible with the current mindset of a lot of its members, so ... I think we should be intellectually honest; by doing this vote. > Since there is very little up-side and substantial down-side, both real > and in terms of image (which is an important consideration, I think), I > do not think that we should vote on this issue. > > Don't we have more concrete issues to address? I ask the same about the apparent necessity to address certain moral issues like policing the behaviour of our members and introducing a set of punishments for bad behaviour. That doesn't mean it can't be discussed. It can. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org http://pvanhoof.be/blog http://codeminded.be _______________________________________________ foundation-list mailing list email@example.com http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list