Hi Olav,

> Hello Seif,
>
> Reading your motivation I think I understand what you mean, but would
> like to know for sure. As such, I'd appreciate if you could expand some
> more on your motivation. Further, though I think I understand, I'm
> purposely asking very open ended questions (to avoid suggestive ones).
>
> My goal is not to have a discussion on this with you or others, purely
> to better understand your motivation.
>
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:59:35AM +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote:
> > Motivation:
> >
> >  My reasons for running for GNOME board are as follows:
>
>
> >  • Encourage more cooperation on design between RH and Canonical.
>
> What do you mean concretely (design of what)? Why RH and Canonical
> specifically?
>

 I left out Intel, Nokia, Novell and others because their main focus now is
on Meego which on a design level I do not consider a GNOME project.
Currently RH and Canonical both have started their own design & user
experience to improve the usability of GNOME. Both however seem to be
heading to the same goal but with different designs that could on a shallow
level end up leaving GNOME in an diverging state (Shell vs Unity). Both
should start cooperating on the design level. One could start off with a
design board combining  selected and competent representatives from
community and companies, whose first objective is to rewrite the HIG.


>
> >  • Avoid fragmentation by helping to build consensus around a unified
> > vision for GNOME's future to prevent a GNOME divergence into 2.30 -and
> > GNOME 3 base.
>
> What do you think is lacking now?
>

What is lacking is a vision of what GNOME 3 should be. Where is it heading?
Who is the target of the GNOME 3 desktop? How is the current GNOME accepted
by the community. There seems to be some disagreements on several issues
concerning design and technical aspects, which are leading to frictions
between upstream and downstream development.

>
> >  • Bring up and fix issues with GNOME that are being ignored or
> >     shunned.
>
> Can you list these?
>

 I will just be frank here...
• Translation shifting from upstream to downstream ?
• Development infrastructure limiting upstream contribution.
• Canonical's Unity development, what does it mean for GNOME ?
• Red Hat's control over GNOME Shell ?
• Meego being a competition or a GNOME sister project ?
• Smaller companies involvement into GNOME decisions
• How much of GNOME is community driven and how much is company driven
• Is the GNOME community forced to assimilate with decisions made by those
companies?
• More...


> >  • Work on letting GNOME shell be lead by the community.
>
> Can you expand on what you want changed?
>

Currently all GNOME Shell decisions are taken by Red Hat, thus limiting the
community's technical as well as design contribution. I suggest starting a
technical board with equal amounts of  representatives of companies as and
community whose members are significantly competent for the roles. Those
should drive the technical development of GNOME Shell forward.


>
> >  • I stand for innovation in GNOME.
>
> What is lacking now, and what do want to do when being part of the
> board?
>

Recently GNOME has not been attracting many new developers. It is because
its current development state doesn't allow any new innovation to settle in.
GNOME being run mostly by people representing bigger companies no risks are
being taken and thinking out of the box is usually categorized as such.
While understandable it leaves GNOME in a state where a lot of
functionalities are desired but not deployable. Innovations are usually
brought up by smaller companies such as Collabora, Codethink, Landeo, Igalia
and others. We should allow them more responsibilities in decision taking
when it comes to GNOME's emerging technologies.

>
> > Don't hesitate to ask me questions when the lines are open.
>
> done
>

Hope I answered your questions.


>
> --
> Regards,
> Olav
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