Oh And about prove,you can't have a biger prove than has been presented in Seeboden 2008. Anybody who has been to Seeboden 2008 has seen the Diamont FX booth with a BIG banner saying: Diamont FX formaly known as Wolf. Right next to the little Wolf booth!! Thats what the whole courtbuisness was about. And as far as I know the Dutch buisnessguy has started Diamont FX as a company. He is the boss, atleast thats what he says. He found a backdoor to the same manufacturer as Wolf and used it. Wolf put a stop to that and now they use a different manufacturerr and its not the same stuff as Wolf anymore.
On Jan 30, 4:59 am, Anabel Rodas <[email protected]> wrote: > Well done Elena! Right over wrong always wins!!! > > I'm sure Gary has not heard the other side or the WHOLE story so didn't have > the info to make a sound decision... I'm also sure that being a very > intelligent and fair man, he will rethink his opinion of Diamond FX, the > distributors, and the information that certain people are spreading for their > own devious reasons!!! Serves as a good lesson if nothing else! It sucks > being used as a tool to further their agenda! YIKES!!!! What is going > on with the face painting world anyway??? Makes you stop and say > hmmmm........ > > Now let's play nice and get to painting!!! > > Anabel L. Rodas > Bananas for Face Painting > Hemet, California > 951-927-9772www.myspace.com/bananasforfacepainting > > > ________________________________ > From: Art Visitor <[email protected]> > To: Face Painting and Body Art Association <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:35:12 PM > Subject: [fpba-assn] Re: Diamond / Wolfe > > Gary, > My name is Elena Bonifaz. I am the distributor for Diamond FX in the > USA. In the past I have not answer to many blogs because I believe > that the truth has always an interesting way of arriving. I met you > in the convention in January and you stroke me as a savvy business > person and someone that would get the two sides of the story before he > reaches a conclusion. Let me help you by giving you my side of the > story. > > 1. A week after my website was up, a person by the name of Luther > Rivera from Tallahassee, FL requested information about the company > and asked if we were FDA approved. I gave my information including > prices, policies and the fact that we had FDA approved ingredients. > Two days later he posted messages stating the total opposite. Any > idea who Luther Rivera is? > 2. A staff member for Wolfe FX posts in a “private blog” statements > saying that my company is illegal and we are using their paint to get > ahead and just relabeling their cakes. Reality – A not-so-smart > European vendor, having a hard time selling Wolfe paint because it is > too expensive tried to get rid of his inventory by passing it for > Diamond FX, a more popular brand. > 3. Another staff member for Wolfe FX sends slandering letters to some > of my vendors telling them that the company is illegal and they will > find themselves unable to sell their inventory if they continue as > vendors. Once again, he provides no proof for this and immediately > cancels them as vendors for their product. > 4. Wolfe FX company after unsuccessfully tried to prohibit the Wolfe > Brothers to work with other companies, threatens Cynthia Keeler to not > support her in the convention if she accepts me as a seller. > 5. Wolfe FX has better luck bribing Marcela and offer once again a > “platinum sponsorship” of $10,000 with a small favor attached, that > Diamond FX is not accepted as a vendor. This time the organizer does > not act as ethical as Cynthia and sends me a message telling me I > would “make the vendor room tense”. > > Now that you have read some points from my side of the story, I ask > you to make your decision. Yes, the paint is similar, we have > comparable formulas, the manufacturer may be in the same town for all > I know, but is Diamond FX using Wolfe paints, are we the evil company > trying to copy a “secret formula” or are we simply a new enterprise in > the industry trying to bring a good product at a good price, creating > some healthy competition for the benefit of the face painters? Is > Wolfe FX mad at us? Of course, as much as McDonalds was mad when > Burger King came by. But being mad is very different from being > unethical – could it be that Wolfe FX is scare of this challenge > because they are deeply in debt and involved in several law suits due > to bad decisions, poor management and sour relationships with > distributors? I can’t tell you, I am not in that company, but next > time they say something about my company I ask you to please request > some proof. > > Sincerely, > Elena Bonifaz > > On Jan 29, 1:55 pm, "Gary Cole" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It is NOT the same manufacturer. I spoke to the Wolfe FX folks this week at > > the Halloween and Party Show in Houston. I got this information from them > > direct. The initial Diamond product was Wolfe material with a Diamond label > > over the top of the Wolfe label. The Diamond FX product now being shipped is > > a different formula from a different factory. It is a big legal quagmire as > > you can imagine. That is the short form of the story. > > > Gary Cole > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > > Behalf Of jacklyn > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:25 AM > > To: Face Painting and Body Art Association > > Subject: [fpba-assn] Re: Help with blacklight body painting > > > I prefer Wolf, Diamant FX itches me also and some colors really do not > > cover well at all. But its from the same manufacturer, so there > > should not be a great diference. > > Jacklyn > > > On Jan 27, 4:16 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > Hi I would have to agree!!!! I used wolfe religiously for years and > > personally I still love the coverage, however Diamond FX is better, > > brighter, and I don't get the tingling or bad taste in my mouth like I did > > with wolfe..... > > > > This is why I use and sell DFX....... > > > > Gina Niemi > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sabrina <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:00:29 > > > To: Face Painting and Body Art Association<[email protected]> > > > Subject: [fpba-assn] Re: Help with blacklight body painting > > > > Actually for me is the totally opposite. Wolfe itches a bit around my > > > eyes and near my lips. I tried Diamond in every sensitive area of my > > > body and no reaction. Even my kids that are supersensitive had no > > > problem with Diamond. I love them! The neon colors have a better > > > coverage and really show beautiful under the blacklight. > > > When and where did you get the Diamond cakes that made you itch? > > > Sabrina > > > > On Jan 25, 7:22 pm, "[email protected]" > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I paint black light in a few night clubs - one every other month. > > > > I use Wolfe neons which I love and swear by - Kryolan only make > > > > quality I prefer to mix their neons in other colors for non-blacklight > > > > work - and personally my face itched like crazy wearing Diamond FX - > > > > > - regardless of the brand the most important thing is to know what the > > > > paint really looks like in standard club lighting and when under the > > > > blacklights. The colors can change and you can actually do some cool > > > > effects because if this or really come off with a design you thought > > > > would be different. > > > > > So get whatever brand you deside on and play - get a good quality > > > > light - I have 2 48" black lights and we have a blast when we play > > > > around with them. Practice and play - see what you can do - paint in > > > > the regular light and see your work - And paint in the black light and > > > > see the work. > > > > > And regardless of the brand Kurt Drake at Wolfe is a black light pro > > > > as is Nick Herrera - you can message them both at myspace or catch > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > We did black light classes at USBPF in 2007 - I think there are pics > > > > on my myspace site. > > > > > Sweet Loretta > > > > myspace.com/extremefaceandbodyart- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Face Painting and Body Art Association." This is a PG-13 forum dedicated to the discussion of Face Painting and Body Art. This group is provided for the benefit of all and as such is not moderated. 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