I would be blunt.  Tell them you were happy to volunteer for # of hour
but you simple cannot afford to do so on a continual basis.  You could
definitely offer them a discount, but.... give some people an inch,
eh?!!

Shannon
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On Jul 27, 12:34 pm, "Arla Albers" <[email protected]> wrote:
> OK, so my church asked me to paint for the Access Ministry (Handicapped
> kids) Camp.  I painted for an hour and a half last week.  In my eyes it
> wasn't so successful....most of the kids wanted arms and cruddy hand art
> stuff.  Not fun for me.  The church was happy.  In fact, the lady in charge
> wanted me to come back EVERY day this week.  (NOT going to happen.)  I
> agreed to come today....and she wanted me for the entire day...for free.  I
> volunteered two hours.
>
> There was never any mention of, "oh, if you could stay, we'd be happy to pay
> you....or......We'd be happy to pay for your paints and supplies."
>
> Today was MUCH more successful......most kids wanted full faces, only a few
> hand art stuff.  Anyway, when it's over, the woman comes up to thank me and
> says that they will copy my business card in their flyer and send out to all
> the families....YEA!  They oogled and oogled and oogled about my work and
> said how it was not only great, but fast.....yes!
>
> Here comes the problem.......she really wanted me to come back AGAIN
> sometime this week.  (I can't, thank goodness because I'm going to Toledo,
> Ohio for a week.)  So I told her, "sorry."
>
> THEN.....a woman comes up to me and introduces herself.....she's the head of
> the ADULT handicapped camp next week and wanted me to come to do something.
> Told her, "Sorry, I'm going to be gone next week."  She says, "Oh, it runs
> for two weeks!"  ..........She says, "I'll have my person call you to see
> what your schedule is."........
>
> THEN.....another man comes up and introduces himself as the director of
> their new house for handicapped kids and says he wants me to come to their
> grand opening when that happens.  He took my card.
>
> They've never offered to pay me, and while I don't mind donating my time
> ONCE in a while...maybe 2-3 times a year, I could do the whole summer for
> free!  OK, the question......
>
> Where do you draw the line?  When you do ask for pay?  When you do say,
> "this is costing me......$$$ I just paid $218 for paints!"  
>
> I wouldn't mind even giving them a $50 per hour discount so I get SOMETHING
> for my time and paints, but I just can't keep doing it for free......here's
> where the old addage comes in, "Freebies beget more freebies".....once
> someone finds out that you'll do it for free, they all want it for free.
>
> So, I'm not the most tactful person in the world and I need help in telling
> them something before they call me again.  Exactly what do I say to them?  I
> don't want to just do this for free anymore, even though it IS my church.
> I've donated my services before on occasion.  Although, for one of the
> programs they did pay me, I think it was $100 a few years ago.  Like I said,
> I could spend the entire summer doing this for free almost on a daily basis.
> (My church probably has 12,000 people that attend on a weekly basis, so you
> can get an idea of how big the church is....and how many programs they could
> have that could use my services.)
>
> Help me solve my problem of what to say.  I'm open to suggestions!
>
> Arla
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