Before anyone relies on the automatic "backup" files that FrameMaker create, you need to be aware that these are *NOT* true backups.
A true backup would result if Frame saved a second copy of the file that you just saved, and that is *not* what happens. Instead, all Frame does is rename the *last previous* version of the file that you saved with a second extension (i.e., <filename>.fm.backup) rather than letting the OS mark it as an unused disk space available for reallocation. The "backup" file is always one save behind the current state of the file. And because Frame actually won't let you save a file that it thinks hasn't been changed in some way, it is effectively guaranteed that the .fm.backup file cannot be an identical copy of the latest saved file. This feature was clearly a quick and dirty implementation that was added to FrameMaker in its distant history (it's been this way for at least 20 years--back to FM4.0, at least) and has been with us ever since. I suppose it's better than losing a file completely, but not by much. If the feature made a real backup, I'd probably leave it enabled as a "just in case", but as it it it is the first thing I turn off in every FrameMaker installation I use. -Fred Ridder From: jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To: email@example.com Subject: RE: Best practices for converting FM to Robohelp Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 13:13:04 +0000 Yes, I could do that too, but then I’d have to run it in reverse if FM ran into trouble and it needed one of those “extra” files to recover/restore from – FM needs the smarts to be able to know where they’re located and retrieve from that location when needed, which it’s currently lacking. Break out the wish list ;>) From: Keith Soltys [mailto:keith.sol...@tmx.com] Sent: September-05-14 8:48 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Best practices for converting FM to Robohelp I run a batch file at least at the end of every day to move my backup files into their own directory. I could probably automate this with ExtendScript, if I had the time to figure it out. But a batch file is simple, and it works (as long as I remember to run it). Regards, Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:37 AM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: RE: Best practices for converting FM to Robohelp They probably weren’t corrupted at all – you just had selected the backup instead of the “live” copy when you opened up the next file (and then your workflow just perpetuated the mistake). One longstanding FM grumble is the program’s desire to always maintain all its files (.book, .fm, .backup, .lck, .auto, etc.) in one location – you can never designate another place to keep those “extra” file types out of the way. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Apurva Bahadur Sent: September-05-14 5:50 AM To: email@example.com Subject: Re: Best practices for converting FM to Robohelp Fellow Framers, Problem solved after some investigation, although I cannot understand the entire process. Problem · While editing, I created the various FM files by renaming and saving the complete file as the next file, deleting the existing stuff and editing new content on the page. · Somewhere in the process, one FM file got corrupted and ended with the extension '.backup' instead of '.fm.' · Due to 'save as' process, all the subsequent files had the '.backup' extension. · Even on corruption, these .backup extension files were visible in the FM book. I could open, edit and create perfect pdf outputs of the FM book. · However, Robohelp refused to recognize the files with .backup extension and made a CHM containing only the files with proper .fm extension. · This resulted in an incomplete CHM, and a growing sense of helpless panic... Solution · I opened the corrupted files from within FM book and saved them by a different name. I checked in the Windows explored that the copy of the files were saved with the proper .fm extension. · I added the renamed files to the book and deleted the corrupted files from the book.That was all to it. I couldn't have solved this problem from within Framemaker itself as the book showed the corrupted files as normal FM files - I would open edit and save them without any indication of an error. So, when black magic starts to happen, please check the extensions of files in Windows explorer! Any idea why FM book could open a file with .backup extension? 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