I caught a clue about FrameMaker's font behavior from
http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/help/index.html - click on Mass Convert
Fonts.  I hadn't realized that FrameMaker uses an .ini file (I thought
ini files went away a LONG time ago) and that in that .ini file there is
a default font definition that was driving me mad here.  I would convert
all fonts to Arial, and upon print, the console would tell me it was
making a substitute for "Times" which I had not defined for anything.
It turns out, that .ini file had a definition of Times for the variable

Steve Cavanaugh
Sr. Technical Writer
NAT Seattle Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces+scavanaugh=nat-seattle....@lists.frameusers.com
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On Behalf Of Noah Evans
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:25 PM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: structured import and pgftag fonts

 Hey Rick, framers,

Rick, thanks for your tip, however in this case it didn't work. Here's

After looking through the mif and experimenting with different
formatting in the edd, I've found the problem, but I have no idea why
it's ending up like this.

Frame seems to be inserting font data on the strings themselves
--overriding the combined fonts defined by the elements. Does anyone
have any idea of how I could stop frame from doing this? I can manually
set the font with a text rule, but frame still nests the combined fonts
too deeply in the mif, so frame's fonts override them.

 I could write an fdk client to eliminate the font information manually,
but I'm hoping that someone who knows more than me could offer me some
ideas as to what's going on and why frame's putting in that font data.

Thanks for everybody's help and input,


 On 10/12/06, Rick Quatro  <frameexpert at truevine.net> wrote:
>   Hi Noah,
> I am not sure what is causing this by try this after you import the
> 1) Choose File > Import > Element Definitions.
> 2) Leave Current selected in the Import from Document popup. Check the

> Format Rule Overrides checkbox and click Import.
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
>  www.frameexpert.com
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I'm having a very strange problem with my structure application. 
> > When I import an xml file, none of the fonts follows the paragraph 
> > tags(which are assigned by the edd, they show up just fine in the 
> > pgftag bar and menu, but the fonts just don't apply for some 
> > reason). They seem to be inheriting the font information from the 
> > root element instead.
> >
> > However if I just insert an element manually the font follows the 
> > pgftag correctly.
> >
> > Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Noah
> > _______________________________________________

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