I frequently get Word files with embedded graphics from our engineers. The
best way I have found to get the content in Frame has been to save the Word
file as both HTML and TXT. I then extract the graphics from the HTML
graphics folder, import the TXT, and reformat according to our template.
I never try to replicate the format of the Word doc. Since our engineers
rarely use styles, all I ever end up with in the RTF is a bunch of
Just my $0.02 worth.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Diane Gaskill
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:03 PM
To: Dov Isaacs; Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker

Embedded graphics in Word do not come across with the text.  In fact, most
RTF files with graphics in them crash the filter.  It simily stops.  After a
few seconds, it displays an error message about not being able to continue.
This happens with anything except very small files (one or two pages).  Yes,
I realize that Word has many problems (ok, it's full of bugs) and that is
one of the reasons we are switching to FM.

Does Adobe have any recommendations for prepping the word file before trying
to import it?  When previoiusly trying to convert files, I've removed all
the graphics and that helped a lot.  But I assume we shouldn't have to do
that if the filter worked as it is supposed to.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isa...@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:33 AM
To: Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker

You could/should be a bit more specific about what you mean by Adobe "fixing
up the RTF to FM filter." If you are finding bugs, by all means officially
report them!

You should be aware that many of the "RTF to anything else"
conversion issues do relate to inconsistencies between how Microsoft itself
produces and/or interprets RTF in various versions and releases of Word.
Even within a particular version of Word, you can see discrepancies. Many of
these have to do with character encodings, especially anything other than
base ASCII characters! This is especially true if you are copying text from
old Word documents from times prior to that in which Unicode was supported.

        - Dov

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diane Gaskill
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:29 PM
> Hi all,
> Speaking of converters, I was wondering if Adobe might ever consider 
> fixing up the RTF to FM and FM to RTF filters that come with Frame.  
> Especially the RTF to FM filter.  It would be SO helpful to companies 
> like mine who are about to convert their docsets, including many large 
> manuals (up to 800 pages, believe it or not) from Word to FM.  It 
> would have made the job of convincing management a lot easier to 
> switch to Frame if we didn't have to pay an outside vendor to do this 
> for us.
> Seems like it would be a profitable thing to do, considering that more 
> companies would be likely to by Frame if they had an easy way to get 
> there from Word.
> Diane


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