The issue is that embedded graphics in Frame is found by many people to not be a useful way of working. If you have a large number of documents which are going to be updated, and their graphics will change, then using referenced files is much better (IMHO). There are actually a lot more advantages, but I have forgotten them. Part of the move from Word to FrameMaker is changing from using embedded graphics to referenced graphics. As someone mentioned, if we did not have access to the original files, using "save as html" on the Word files got the graphics out (it took me about a week to fix the graphics in our set of books when we made the transfer).
Moving all of your documentation from Word to Frame is indeed a major project, on the other hand it is an excellent way to get to know Frame's capabilities and practice working on it. There are a number of utilities out there to help in the transfer process, including Table cleaner, which we could not have managed without, and various tools for working with tags. Caroline?Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer ??????????????? Fax:???????? +972 3 6474681 Email:?? caroline at radcom.com www.radcom.com www.protocols.com -----Original Message----- From: framers-bounces+caroline=radcom.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom....@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:03 PM To: Dov Isaacs; Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers at FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker Embedded graphics in Word do not come across with the text. In fact, most RTF files with graphics in them crash the filter. It simily stops. After a few seconds, it displays an error message about not being able to continue. This happens with anything except very small files (one or two pages). Yes, I realize that Word has many problems (ok, it's full of bugs) and that is one of the reasons we are switching to FM. Does Adobe have any recommendations for prepping the word file before trying to import it? When previoiusly trying to convert files, I've removed all the graphics and that helped a lot. But I assume we shouldn't have to do that if the filter worked as it is supposed to. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isa...@adobe.com] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:33 AM To: Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers at FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker You could/should be a bit more specific about what you mean by Adobe "fixing up the RTF to FM filter." If you are finding bugs, by all means officially report them! You should be aware that many of the "RTF to anything else" conversion issues do relate to inconsistencies between how Microsoft itself produces and/or interprets RTF in various versions and releases of Word. Even within a particular version of Word, you can see discrepancies. Many of these have to do with character encodings, especially anything other than base ASCII characters! This is especially true if you are copying text from old Word documents from times prior to that in which Unicode was supported. - Dov > -----Original Message----- > From: Diane Gaskill > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:29 PM > > Hi all, > > Speaking of converters, I was wondering if Adobe might ever > consider fixing up the RTF to FM and FM to RTF filters that > come with Frame. Especially the RTF to FM filter. It would > be SO helpful to companies like mine who are about to convert > their docsets, including many large manuals (up to 800 pages, > believe it or not) from Word to FM. It would have made the > job of convincing management a lot easier to switch to Frame > if we didn't have to pay an outside vendor to do this for us. > > Seems like it would be a profitable thing to do, considering > that more companies would be likely to by Frame if they had > an easy way to get there from Word. > > Diane _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as caroline at radcom.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/caroline%40radcom.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.