Fred and Others, Sorry it's taken me some time to get back to the list and those that offered assistance, but I was sidetracked by another project. Thanks to everyone for the great ideas and offers of help! At this point, I think that Fred's idea is the best one. It resolves the issues I had privately about having the conditional text for the other product in the same file as what I wanted to have, albeit hidden, and it also eliminates the major problem I had with the conditional text markers. This way, if anyone else looks at the files later on, they (hopefully) won't be confused with the (in some cases) double text if they make things unconditional. It makes things nice and clean! Thanks again to a great set of people! The techwr-l and framer's lists are great resources with wonderful people subscribed and willing to help out! I'll continue to read and (mostly) lurk, offering suggestions or comments as warranted.
Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 sbeard at oico.com -----Original Message----- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:19 PM To: Sam Beard; Frame User's Group Subject: RE: Conditional Text Question The Show/Hide Conditional Text dialog has an option box labeled "Sow Condition Indicators" just below the "Show" list box. This option toggles the color and other (e.g. underlining or strikethrough) highlighting of all conditions that are set to show. As far as archiving product-specific source files, another approach that has not been mentioned is this one: -Make a duplicate set of the complete, conditionalized book and source files. -In the duplicate file set, use the Edit Condition Tag command in the Conditional Text dialog to delete each of the condition tags that relate to the other versions of the product. Each time you invoke the command for a condition that is actually in use in the file, you'll get a dialog that asks you whether you wish to make the tagged text unconditional or delete the text. Since the tags you are deleting relate to other product versions, choose the delete option. -If you want to get serious, repeat the preceding step for the conditions that are specific to the current version of the product, but choose the "make unconditional" option. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Staff Information Services Analyst Intel Parsippany, NJ -----Original Message----- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel....@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sam Beard Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:17 AM To: Frame User's Group Cc: richard.combs at polycom.com; elebelle at gmail.com Subject: RE: Conditional Text Question All, Thanks much for the help on this issue, but I need to clarify a few things. First, I'm aware of the purpose of using conditional text, which is what helped me to get this job. However, I have no real choice as to having three separate files (my second point), because of our documentation control system. We number our documents with a one-up system, including the month/year as the last four parts of an eight-digit number. If these documents were for a new product line, we MIGHT be able to get away with putting them into a single number. However, they are for two separate but similar product lines. The first one is 1950 while the second one is 2158. Therefore, I have to maintain having three separate books for each document, hiding and viewing the appropriate conditional text and saving it to the appropriate folder on our system. Unless someone has an idea about how to get around that, then that's the way it is here. Before I started here, the documents were COMPLETELY maintained as two separate books, even though there was a LOT of cross-over text between them. Obviously, this made updating them much more of a challenge and they are actually out of step with each other by one version. I'm not sure that's something that will change, either. I'll probably have to use a variable or something else to indicate the version numbers of the two and conditionalize that, as well. I believe everyone that responded mentioned hiding the conditional text indicators, so I'll need to check into how to change that. I wasn't aware of how to change that, which is why I posted my question. So, thanks to all of you for the tips on that. I'll see if I can determine how to hide the indicators. Thanks again and have a great day! Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 sbeard at oico.com -----Original Message----- From: Miriam Lezak [mailto:mle...@marzak.org] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:01 PM To: Sam Beard Cc: Frame User's Group Subject: Re: Conditional Text Question Sam: If you conditionalize the whole row, that row should disappear when you turn the condition off. The colored borders indicate that you've correctly conditionalized it (rather than just conditionalizing the text within the border). If that doesn't make sense, let me know. Miriam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Beard" <sbe...@oico.com> To: <framers at frameusers.com> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:39 PM Subject: Conditional Text Question Hello All, I have a document that uses conditional text to delineate between two different versions of the same basic product. Before I started this, there were two separate books for each manual, even though there is a LOT of cross-over text between them that is the same. I combined them into a single set of master files and am marking the conditional text, hiding what I don't want to see, and saving the resulting file for the two separate books. Now, I have three files for each chapter of the book: Master, Version 1, and Version 2. All well and good. However, I also have ALL of the text in all three files, albeit Version 1's text is hidden in Version 2, and vice-versa. Is there a way to permanently remove the text for Version 1 from Version 2, and vice-versa, while maintaining the master file? One of the reasons I need to do this is to remove the borders around cells in a table that are conditionalized. Currently, there are large colored borders around any table cells that are marked as conditional. I'm on Windows XP with Frame 7.2b144. Thanks much in advance! Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 sbeard at oico.com _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mlezak at marzak.org. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mlezak%40marzak.org Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as fred.ridder at intel.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. 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