tab, under Frame Above Pgf, for the rule, you can specify which frame to use
(from the Reference page) or None.


Deb Wible (dwible at chipx.com)
Technical Publications Manager
ChipX, Inc.
2323 Owen Street, Santa Clara CA 95054
408 235 7386  (office)
408 828 5257  (cell)




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Today's Topics:

   1. Line over footnotes (Gunnar Carlsson)
   2. Re: Line over footnotes (Rick Quatro)
   3. Line over footnotes - found it! (Gunnar Carlsson)
   4. missing fonts (Jon Harvey)
   5. Re: missing fonts (Art Campbell)
   6. RE: missing fonts (Combs, Richard)
   7. Re: missing fonts (Rene Stephenson)
   8. Graphics that are too large (Judie Vegh)
   9. RE: Cannot launch distiller to create PDF file (Adam Schweitzer)
  10. Re: Graphics that are too large (Art Campbell)
  11. Re: Cannot launch distiller to create PDF file (Mike Wickham)
  12. Re: 3rd level index entry problem --- SOLVED (Dona Mommsen)
  13. RE: Graphics that are too large (Judie Vegh)
  14. RE: Graphics that are too large (Combs, Richard)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:10:59 +0200
From: Gunnar Carlsson <gunnarcarls...@tele2.se>
Subject: Line over footnotes
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: <20070618141101.6DEF237E48 at smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net>
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Hi,
There is always a thin line over the footnotes. Does anyone know how
to change that line? (longer/shorter, move a few mm down, to the
left/right, thicker).
Regards
Gunnar Carlsson




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:12:17 -0400
From: "Rick Quatro" <frameexp...@truevine.net>
Subject: Re: Line over footnotes
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>, "Gunnar Carlsson"
        <gunnarcarlsson at tele2.se>
Message-ID: <008a01c7b1b2$adff6740$0200a8c0 at CARMENOFFICE>
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Choose View > Reference Pages and find the Footnote reference frame. Any
adjustments you make to the frame or the content of the frame will be
reflected above the footnotes.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Hi,
> There is always a thin line over the footnotes. Does anyone know how to
> change that line? (longer/shorter, move a few mm down, to the left/right,
> thicker).
> Regards
> Gunnar Carlsson



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:14:17 +0200
From: Gunnar Carlsson <gunnarcarls...@tele2.se>
Subject: Line over footnotes - found it!
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: <20070618141419.9B2E337E45 at smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net>
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Found it!
Of course, on the Reference pages, where else!



Hi,
There is always a thin line over the footnotes. Does anyone know how
to change that line? (longer/shorter, move a few mm down, to the
left/right, thicker).
Regards
Gunnar Carlsson




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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:29:30 -0400
From: "Jon Harvey" <jhar...@cambridgesoft.com>
Subject: missing fonts
To: <Framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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        <70F9096B6F19D04FBB273943E1BCAA1201B1DA7F at EXCHANGE.camsoft.com>
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Hi all,



I'm getting a missing font error in various docs. Is there a way to
determine in a large FM doc what fonts are missing and where FM is
looking for them? I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows. I'd like to find the
culprit text and solve the problem.





Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354





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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:42:49 -0400
From: "Art Campbell" <art.campb...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: missing fonts
To: "Jon Harvey" <JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com>
Cc: Framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:
        <c7d9dd600706180842p7315d3c5l4adf5308f8fe0ea2 at mail.gmail.com>
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If you have a FM console program running, it'll show up in there.
If you don't, open Preferences, turn on Show Translation Errors, and
reboot FM....

Under Windows, FM would use the system settings for font locations.

Art

On 6/18/07, Jon Harvey <JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm getting a missing font error in various docs. Is there a way to
> determine in a large FM doc what fonts are missing and where FM is
> looking for them? I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows. I'd like to find the
> culprit text and solve the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jon Harvey
>
> Manager, Desktop Documentation
>
> CambridgeSoft Corporation
>
> 100 CambridgePark Drive
>
> Cambridge, MA 02140
>
> (617) 588-9354
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:07:47 -0600
From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.co...@polycom.com>
Subject: RE: missing fonts
To: "Jon Harvey" <JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com>,
        <Framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Jon Harvey wrote:

> I'm getting a missing font error in various docs. Is there a
> way to determine in a large FM doc what fonts are missing and
> where FM is looking for them? I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows.
> I'd like to find the culprit text and solve the problem.

The missing font message tells you what font is missing, and what font
FM is temporarily substituting. After you open all the problematic docs,
you'll find all the missing fonts and substitutions listed in the
FrameMaker console window.

That said, you can generate an Index (or List) of References and include
Fonts to get a complete list for your document or book.

If you're OK with FM's substitutions being made permanent, you can go to
Preferences and uncheck Remember Missing Font Names. If you'd rather
have different substitutions, you can map the unavailable fonts to the
substitutes of your choosing in maker.ini. See
Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf in your FM installation's OnlineManuals
subdirectory.

HTH!
Richard


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:50:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rene Stephenson <rinn...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: missing fonts
To: Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com>,   Jon Harvey
        <JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com>
Cc: Framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: <985050.22639.qm at web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

FM Console does show the font name(s) that are missing, but I haven't seen
it specify where the font is used that's missing. For that piece of Jon's
question, I'd  use Find, Character Format, type in the missing font family,
and leave everything else as-is. This doesn't "see" the reference or master
pages, though, so if you can't find it this way, do the search again while
viewing ref pages and again while viewing master pages for each file in the
book.

That said, it seems like "out there somewhere" I saw mention of a plugin
that could search reference and master pages for various format stuff, but I
can't remember if it just generated a list of what's used where (maybe
hyperlinked) or exactly how it functioned. I don't even remember which
plugin it was or who developed it. (Fine lot of help I am.) But, maybe
someone else on the list knows and would respond. :-)

Rene

Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com> wrote: If you have a FM console
program running, it'll show up in there.
If you don't, open Preferences, turn on Show Translation Errors, and
reboot FM....

Under Windows, FM would use the system settings for font locations.

Art

On 6/18/07, Jon Harvey  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm getting a missing font error in various docs. Is there a way to
> determine in a large FM doc what fonts are missing and where FM is
> looking for them? I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows. I'd like to find the
> culprit text and solve the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jon Harvey
>
> Manager, Desktop Documentation
>
> CambridgeSoft Corporation
>
> 100 CambridgePark Drive
>
> Cambridge, MA 02140
>
> (617) 588-9354
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:15:22 -0400
From: "Judie Vegh" <judie.v...@onbase.com>
Subject: Graphics that are too large
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Hello all,



I am currently in the process of creating a new style for some manuals.
I really like manuals that have two columns per page, one column
designated for text and steps, the other designated for images and
figures. Unfortunately, some of the screenshots that I have to take are
large, and even scaling them down by DPI in the Object Properties dialog
box, won't benefit the manual because they don't look nice when output
to a PDF.



I feel that the easiest solution would be to create a master page with
two columns and another master page that allows for room for a large
graphic at the bottom of the page and apply it as I need it, but is this
really fast and efficient? I feel like it will cause more headaches than
ease-of-use.



What would anyone suggest doing to remedy these large graphics (besides
not using them), and allow it to be efficient?



Thanks,



Judie




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:29:35 -0400
From: "Adam Schweitzer" <adam.schweit...@magellan.aero>
Subject: RE: Cannot launch distiller to create PDF file
To: "Dov Isaacs" <isaacs at adobe.com>, <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Just to verify, to "print to the Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver
instance", I did the following:
File -> Print
Setup -> Name to Adobe PDF -> OK
Print

This does not work.  It appears to work on Frame's side (albeit still
exceedingly slowly for some documents), but in the Adobe PDF printer
queue, I get an error message "the document failed to print".

When I check the "print to file" box, Frame does generate the .ps file,
from which I am able to produce a PDF successfully (and it seems to be
consistent).  However, when the Adobe PDF printer is selected, this can
be quite a bit slower (several minutes vs. less than 20 seconds) than
when a physical printer is selected (although - I guess because the
printer is monochrome - the resultant PDF loses all colour information).

So I think there's still something not quite right going on here.

Adam




-----Original Message-----
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isa...@adobe.com]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 6:34 PM
To: Adam Schweitzer; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cannot launch distiller to create PDF file

If in fact it works "sometimes" but not others, the problem has nothing
to do with having multiple distillers on your system. If you installed
the standalone version of Distiller that came with FrameMaker, it would
be available to uninstall from the Add/Remove programs control panel.

I would suggest that for reliability, you print to the Adobe PDF
PostScript printer driver instance in lieu of using the "save as PDF"
feature. Please advise if that works consistently.

        - Dov


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Schweitzer
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 5:49 AM
>
> I am having a problem trying to save Frame documents as PDF files
> using the File->save as command.  It seems to work haphazardly -
> sometimes, a PDF is generated with no problem, other times Frame keeps

> trying for quite a while (almost appearing as if the program crashed,
> using 100% of the CPU), eventually giving up after several minutes
> with the error message "Cannot launch Acrobat Distiller to create PDF
> file".
>  There does not seem to be any discernible pattern to suggest to me
> why it might be failing.
>
> I am running Framemaker 7.2p158 and Distiller 8.0 on Windows XP
> Professional.
>
> It has been suggested to me that this might be a result of having
> multiple copies of Distiller installed on the system, but I'm not sure

> how I would check that (Distiller doesn't show up in Add/remove
> programs on it's own).
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Adam Schweitzer
> Orenda Aerospace Corporation


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:22:03 -0400
From: "Art Campbell" <art.campb...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Graphics that are too large
To: "Judie Vegh" <Judie.Vegh at onbase.com>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:
        <c7d9dd600706181022m77f2840ai2536578bed4bb551 at mail.gmail.com>
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It'd be much easier to import the screen shots into anchored frames
and set the frames to span both columns (what I'd recommend) and/or to
go to the bottom of the page... That would also allow them to float in
the text as it is modified.

Playing with special master pages would force you to manually
repaginate whenever your content changed...

Art



On 6/18/07, Judie Vegh <Judie.Vegh at onbase.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I am currently in the process of creating a new style for some manuals.
> I really like manuals that have two columns per page, one column
> designated for text and steps, the other designated for images and
> figures. Unfortunately, some of the screenshots that I have to take are
> large, and even scaling them down by DPI in the Object Properties dialog
> box, won't benefit the manual because they don't look nice when output
> to a PDF.
>
>
>
> I feel that the easiest solution would be to create a master page with
> two columns and another master page that allows for room for a large
> graphic at the bottom of the page and apply it as I need it, but is this
> really fast and efficient? I feel like it will cause more headaches than
> ease-of-use.
>
>
>
> What would anyone suggest doing to remedy these large graphics (besides
> not using them), and allow it to be efficient?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Judie
>
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:56:31 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" <mewick...@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Cannot launch distiller to create PDF file
To: "Adam Schweitzer" <adam.schweitzer at magellan.aero>,       "Frame Users"
        <framers at lists.FrameUsers.com>
Message-ID: <000801c7b1d2$010ebca0$0b00a8c0 at plecopress>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

>> When I check the "print to file" box, Frame does generate the .ps file,
from which I am able to produce a PDF successfully (and it seems to be
consistent).  However, when the Adobe PDF printer is selected, this can
be quite a bit slower (several minutes vs. less than 20 seconds) than
when a physical printer is selected (although - I guess because the
printer is monochrome - the resultant PDF loses all colour information). <<

If your PDF is coming out monochrome instead of color, one possible cause is
if you have the Adobe PDF virtual printer set to use the wrong driver. Open
the printer properties dialogue for Adobe PDF (Start Menu> Printers and
Faxes, right-click on Adobe PDF), look on the Advanced tab, and see which
driver is specified. It should be "Adobe PDF Converter." If you've got it
set to use a different driver, such as a the Generic Postscript driver, this
could be the cause of your problem.

Mike Wickham




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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:51:53 -0500
From: Dona Mommsen <dona.momm...@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: 3rd level index entry problem --- SOLVED
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Fred Ridder <docudoc at hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <b3a60e7c8a168d145a70d32163dace68 at gmx.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes;
        format=flowed

Hi Fred, hi framers,

I've solved the issue by removing the character tags to format Level1IX
entries. Now the book will be also easier to maintain.

Thanks for your help and suggestions

Dona


On Jun 15, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Dona Mommsen wrote:

> Hi Fred,
>
> thanks for the quick response on a Friday afternoon.
>
> On Jun 15, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Fred Ridder wrote:
>
>> What you're adding to the index entry is not a paragraph tag;
>> it is a *character* tag.
>
> Sure, my mistake. It is a character tag.
>>
>> If this formatting is something you want to apply to every
>> 1st-level index entry, the way you should do this is by setting
>> the formatting in the paragraph format of the Level1IX paragraph
>> tag in the paragraph catalog of the IX file. Doing global formatting
>> in the index entries themselves is simply a mainetnance nightmare.
>
> Hindsight is such a wonderful thing. You are absolutely right. The
> problem was that I botched up the index structure in the first place.
> I had no experience, so I created a real mess concerning the selection
> and structure of terms. So when I redid the index, the manual
> character tags helped me to single out the index entries were already
> revised. Now with the revised structure, it might be worthwhile to
> remove all the manual tags again.
>
>
>>
>> As to why your index entries aren't working properly, I'm not
>> sure I have any good ideas. One thing you might want to try
>> (assuming that you really do intend to stick with the approach
>> of applying character formatting in the index entries) is to
>> explictly cancel the character format at the ned of the top-
>> level entry using <Default Para Font> just before the first
>> colon.
>
> Unfortunately that didn't help.
>>
>> And just to make sure: You're not including paragraph breaks
>> or line breaks in your index markers, are you? There's a known
>> bug in FrameMaker relating to that.
>
> I didn't know about that known bug, but I double checked that I have
> neither a paragraph break nor a line break in the index entry.
>
> Moreover, my problem does not seem to have anything to do with my
> character tag.
> I created a new document from the standard template (blank portrait),
> and added just a few 2nd and 3rd level index entries. I touched the
> file as little as possible: No copy/ paste from my document that could
> include any corrupt stuff. No formatting, no changes on the reference
> pages. Then I created a new book, and added a standard index. I did no
> tweaking whatsoever, and I get the same behavior.
>
> Any further suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Dona
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Dona Mommsen <dona.mommsen at gmx.net>
>>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>> Subject: 3rd level index entry problem
>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:15:07 -0500
>>>
>>> Dear Framers,
>>>
>>> I'm using Frame 7.0 on Mac 10.3.9, and I'm having trouble with 3rd
>>> level index entries for a book.
>>> I'm adding manually a paragraph tag <IndexFirst> to first level
>>> index entries. Maybe that was a stupid thing to do in the first
>>> place, and maybe it has nothing to do with my problem. Anyhow, the
>>> results are fine for first and second level entries. Yet any third
>>> level entry does not appear at the correct place, reproducing all 3
>>> levels in its own entry.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> This creates a correct second level entry:
>>> <IndexFirst>customer:corporate customer
>>>
>>> This creates an incorrect third level entry
>>> <IndexFirst>customer:corporate customer:scenarios
>>>
>>> Snippet from the resulting Index:
>>>
>>> customer
>>>     corporate customer
>>>             scenarios 306308
>>> customer
>>>     <<other 2nd level entries here>>
>>>     corporate customer 19, 50, 63, 147, 149
>>>             <<scenarios does NOT show up as 3rd level entry here>>
>>>
>>> AFAIK it has noting to do with the page ranges, since I get the same
>>> behavior with other entries that are for a single page. In fact, I
>>> get the same behavior for any 3rd level entries that I've tried so
>>> far. I also tried to force the entry by adding a sort order
>>> [customer:corporate customer], which seems to be ignored. What am I
>>> missing?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any help
>>>
>>> Dona
>>
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:15:51 -0400
From: "Judie Vegh" <judie.v...@onbase.com>
Subject: RE: Graphics that are too large
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Doug and Art,

Thanks so much for your responses, I will try these methods out and see
what works best for my situation.

As a follow up to this, would it be possible if I wanted text to expand
across both columns at the bottom of the page? Say, instead of adding in
a graphic to explain my steps, I'd like to add in a text box with some
information relevant to the text/steps that are in the two columns?
Would that then require a different master page?


Judie

-----Original Message-----
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:22 PM
To: Judie Vegh
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Graphics that are too large

It'd be much easier to import the screen shots into anchored frames
and set the frames to span both columns (what I'd recommend) and/or to
go to the bottom of the page... That would also allow them to float in
the text as it is modified.

Playing with special master pages would force you to manually
repaginate whenever your content changed...

Art



On 6/18/07, Judie Vegh <Judie.Vegh at onbase.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I am currently in the process of creating a new style for some
manuals.
> I really like manuals that have two columns per page, one column
> designated for text and steps, the other designated for images and
> figures. Unfortunately, some of the screenshots that I have to take
are
> large, and even scaling them down by DPI in the Object Properties
dialog
> box, won't benefit the manual because they don't look nice when output
> to a PDF.
>
>
>
> I feel that the easiest solution would be to create a master page with
> two columns and another master page that allows for room for a large
> graphic at the bottom of the page and apply it as I need it, but is
this
> really fast and efficient? I feel like it will cause more headaches
than
> ease-of-use.
>
>
>
> What would anyone suggest doing to remedy these large graphics
(besides
> not using them), and allow it to be efficient?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Judie
>
>
>
>
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:10:04 -0600
From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.co...@polycom.com>
Subject: RE: Graphics that are too large
To: "Judie Vegh" <Judie.Vegh at onbase.com>,
        <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
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Judie Vegh wrote:

> As a follow up to this, would it be possible if I wanted text
> to expand across both columns at the bottom of the page? Say,
> instead of adding in a graphic to explain my steps, I'd like
> to add in a text box with some information relevant to the
> text/steps that are in the two columns?
> Would that then require a different master page?

I'm having a hard time visualizing what you're trying to achieve -- you
have a two-column page, and you want some text to span both columns? You
don't need (or want) a different master page -- that would be a
maintenance nightmare. You may need to define additional paragraph
formats that span columns. Take a look at the Pagination tab of the
Paragraph Designer dialog. Tables can also span columns -- depending on
your goal, you might look into that, too.

HTH!
Richard


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