It's definitely a Windows issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott White [mailto:swh...@alamark.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:53 PM
To: Rush, Jay
Cc: Howard Rauch; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Color Output Problems

We just use pitstop or let our printer fix the files using pitstop.  
If we do the work on a MAC no color issues.


Scott White
Media Production Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
swhite at alamark.com



On Sep 26, 2007, at 2:01 PM, Rush, Jay wrote:

> We've been using Frame for years for certain marcom pieces,  
> particularly where the content is similar or identical to content  
> in our technical documents. Basically, our technical marketing is  
> in Frame, while our corporate marketing is in InDesign. We have  
> successfully worked around Frame's RGB output by using Publi PDF, a  
> PDF creator/print queue monitor that has a Color Optimizer. It  
> analyzes the Frame color output and allows us to modify those  
> colors to either CMYK or Pantone prior to distillation to PDF. It  
> does a lot more. For instance, we have one print queue monitor set  
> up such that, by printing to that "printer," Publi PDF creates two  
> PDFs at the same time, both color-corrected according to our custom  
> color definitions, one high-res using one custom Distiller  
> joboption for our print environment, and one low-res using a  
> different custom Distiller joboption for posting to our website.  
> Pretty cool. Check it out at http://www.grafikhuset.net/ 
> international/.
>
> Jay Rush
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: framers-bounces+jrush=c-cor.com at lists.frameusers.com  
> [mailto:framers-bounces+jrush=c-cor.com at lists.frameusers.com] On  
> Behalf Of Howard Rauch
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:52 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Color Output Problems
>
> Windows XP Professional
> FrameMaker 7.0
> Adobe Acrobat 8.0 Professional
>
> For the past 10 years I have been working with a firm that  
> manufactures steel decking for the construction industry. Our major  
> output has been two catalogs plus two updates (4 catalogs total),   
> ranging from 60 to 150 pages. Approximately 15-20 pages is text  
> with supporting illustrations. The remaining pages are tables that  
> have a header with an illustration of the deck profile and the  
> circumstance for its use. The tables, mostly on facing pages, are  
> typically 12 columns x 48 rows (plus or minus). Some tables also  
> have footnotes. Since our client has requested that each profile is  
> its owwn discrete file, we combine as many as 50 files into a  
> FrameMaker book. Except for the covers, the catalogs have been  
> printed in black + 1 spot color. (The covers are prepared by others  
> using Quark -- no problem.)
>
> That one spot color is the problem. Commercial printers seem to  
> dislike FrameMaker output for offset printing because, in the  
> printers' view at least, Frame does a lousy job of handling color  
> output. For the four catalogs, we have used three printers, and  
> each one has had trouble with Frame's color output despite our  
> setting up FrameMaker separations and Distiller to the printers'  
> specifications. They claim that Frame outputs a lot of RGB color or  
> mixes RGB and CMYK color. The printer also wants output to an 11x17  
> page, but Frame says the output will overlap facing pages because  
> we use right and left master pages with more space on the binding  
> edge.
>
> Basically our client is looking for answers two questions:
>
> 1. Is FrameMaker still the best software choice? If not, what  
> software or plug-ins would you recommend?
>
> 2. Assuming we continue with FrameMaker, how can we avoid the color  
> issues we've had with commercial printers?
>
> I would think that many of you have encountered the same problems,  
> and I am most interested in hearing how you solved them.
>
> Howard Rauch
>
> Technology Transfer, Inc.
> "Linking Creators and Users of Technology"
> 933 North 18th Street
> Manitowoc WI 54220
> Office: 920-682-1528
> Cell: 920-629-0080
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