Hi Stefan;
I used it a few times back in the day (I've been using FM since v2)
to create "insert" pages (for documents that were printed and stored in
3-ring binders). These pages would be updates to the existing document.
That said, I have not used the feature in many years, and I'm not sure
it is useful outside of a paper-based environment. I suppose one could
create such a page as something to be inserted into a PDF, but I'd have
to be convinced of the value of that in comparison to a linked list of
changes.
I'd much rather have an in-built tracking option that I could use to
flag changes and be able to add an auto-generated list of changes
chapter to a publication. (I see it as similar to the existing LOF/LOI
functionality.)
Regards
Grant
------ Original Message ------
From: "Shmuel Wolfson" <[email protected]>
To: "Framers - frameusers.com" <[email protected]>
Sent: 4/25/2017 6:58:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature
You understood me correctly, but the user should be able to define
several styles.
As a take-off on your idea (of warning before printing), how about a
way to check (via a menu command) if the TOC is out of sync, in
addition to the warning before printing. However, this should include
chapter TOCs as well. If your feature would work for mini-TOCs but not
text inset TOCs, I guess that would be good enough, even though I have
tons of docs that still use the text inset TOCs.
Another option would be to have a warning in the dialog box that opens
after a book update that the TOC (and maybe LOF or LOT) has changes in
chapter X, and that you should update the local TOC if one exists. This
would be enough to address my issue of headings changing pages.
Actually there is a potential problem with this solution that if you
use only three heading levels in the TOC, but use four levels in the
chapter TOC, it would be have check for that also.
Also, your idea does not address tables that have rows that move onto a
new page. I think a warning as the table rows actually move to a new
page would be a good idea for this problem.
--
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
058-763-7133
On 25-Apr-17 3:15 PM, Stefan Gentz wrote:
Hi Shmuel,
thanks for your answer. I'm not sure if I completely understand the
requirement. Do I understand right, that you would like to be able to
define a specific style (e.g. "Heading1") in some sort of
"Repagination Warning Setup" (dialog) and whenever you add or remove
content somewhere that makes one of the paragraphs tagged with
"Heading1" on some other page move to some other page you get a
warning message? (Same for the table example you mentioned.)
Plus: I'm just wondering right now, if a feature that automatically
warns you when you want to save as PDF / print that your automatically
generated lists (TOC, IX etc.) are "out of sync" and recommends to
update them. Would that be useful?
Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
-----Original Message-----
From: Framers
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 13:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature
Hi Stefan,
Instead of freeze pagination, what I would like is a pagination
warning.
This feature would, when turned on, warn you when a paragraph with one
of the user-specified specified styles moves to a new page, and when
some rows of a table end up on a new page. This would be helpful when
editing a doc, so that you know when the pagination changed and the
TOC needs to be updated, or to look over the tables to see where rows
moved to a new page. For extra credit, the feature would also provide
a list of where these changes occurred. This would be a great help.
Many times after a few edits, I find myself reviewing the entire doc
to see where the headings appear and updating all the TOCs just in
case a heading, table caption or figure caption, moved to a new page.
The current feature the way it is is pretty much useless to me.
--
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
058-763-7133
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