Hi Carol,

thanks for your detailed answer as well.

Currently we have no plans to change the feature as it is, the question is 
only, if we bring it back to the UI and document it, and you sound to be happy 
with the solution from Rick :-)
 
Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
 

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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe....@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 18:10
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
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Subject: Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

At 03:20 AM 4/25/2017, you wrote:
>My question to you:
>- Has anyone ever used this feature when it was still present in the UI 
>many versions back?
>- Is anyone still using it?
>- What is the use case scenario that you can think of where it still 
>might be useful?

Stephan, I'm the client for whom Rick scripted a marvelous solution for some of 
the limitations of Frame's Freeze Pagination functionality. I had no idea of 
the limitations until he enumerated them in his email to you. His script makes 
the whole process of using point pages a miraculously simple operation.

I write documentation for America's rail industry, and it relies heavily on 
quarterly updates to manuals critical to moving freight. 
The manuals are printed in their entirety once a year; quarterly "changed 
pages" are released and users are expected to replace the pages in their 
manuals with the changed pages (all changed text is identified with change 
bars). Thus pagination must be kept constant. 
If new content is added, point pages must be created to house that content so 
that subsequent pages are unaffected. At the beginning of a new cycle, the book 
is unfrozen, point pages are incorporated back into the newly repaginated book, 
and the process begins again.

The rail industry has historically lagged behind technology, and I don't see 
that changing (although electronic sensors are a hot item in an effort to make 
rail transport more safe). I'm still modifying documents that were originally 
written in the late 1800s. The industry makes its manuals available as PDFs and 
they sell well. 
However, there are federal quality assurance requirements that demand hardcopy 
manuals exist and be kept up to date. Until the old school engineers and execs 
retire, hardcopy manuals will persist.

I would encourage (beg?) Adobe to not remove freeze pagination and point page 
functionality. (If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.) But I'm not sure it 
makes sense to spend research dollars to improve the feature. I suggest letting 
third-party providers like Rick continue writing scripts for the very few of us 
that use the technology. That hopefully will meet everyone's needs and promote 
free enterprise.

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