I know this is getting off topic in terms of seeking double perf stock but I thought it would include well in this thread. My cousin taught me a neat effect easily achievable with R8 stock. Load your R8 camera and shoot the first half of a roll in ordinary fashion. Reload in preparation to shoot then 2nd half of the film but turn the camera upside down and shoot the 2nd half of the roll with the camera inverted. At this point you have two options, 1. take the roll out and have it processed but left unslit. Thread and project on a 16mm projector and you will see a grid of 4 frames two on the left are two adjacent frames of one scene and the two on the right are two adjacent frames of another scene. The 2nd option would be to take this existing exposed unprocessed roll of R8 (now at the head of the roll) and load it into a 16mm camera. The resulting processed roll of film projected on a 16mm projector would yield a grid of 4 frames as described above with a full image covering all 4 frames double exposed on top of it. Very cool effect.
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Myron Ort <[email protected]> wrote: > There is double perf 16mm, and Double 8mm which is double perf 16 > with an extra set of sprocket holes such that if split it becomes > Reg. 8mm. > Yes Double 8mm could be shot in a 16mm camera or in a Reg.8 mm camera. > Then it could be spit or not split, yielding several possible > "special effects": > > > 1. shot in Reg. 8 camera, not split= frame quarters seen, one side > upside down unless anticipated in shooting. > 2. shot in 16mm, then split = flicker effect, alternate frame > quadrants. See example below. > 3. shot in 16mm camera, projected one sprocket displaced= half screen > effect, horizontal split, top and bottom of frame. > 4. shot in 16mm camera, double exposed in 8mm camera, then split. Any > number of possible variations or possible multiple exposures with > this kind of thinking. > 5. who knows what you might come up with. > > > Here is a film that was double 8mm film stock shot in a 16mm camera, > meant to be used simply as 16mm, but I accidentally slit it, so > there ended up two rolls (the two halves) of Reg. 8 > with the flicker effect of alternating quadrants, then, after > telecine, I juxtaposed the two halves side by side in "chronological > shooting order" in fcp, yielding this double screen effect with the > rather mysterious > connections between the two halves. Note that one half of the split > double 8mm had to be telecined as A-wind, the other half B-wind in > order for this to properly work out. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch? > v=l4cNZLv5o9M&list=UUhNv2f1M4EKeyTB68E_n5dg&index=8&feature=plcp > > Myron Ort > > > > > > > > On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Steven Gladstone wrote: > > > On 1/23/12 6:21 PM, Myron Ort wrote: > >> double perf versus double 8mm > > > > I always thought you could shoot double 8mm in 16mm, and when it was > > processed you would just have an extra set of unused perfs (might be a > > problem with frame lines if you were off by a perf.) I never tried it, > > so I might be wrong, but I thought the perfs were the same size. > > > > On another note. I have a Redlake Hycam, and would really be happy if > > someone wanted to come take it off my hands. While I'd prefer a > > 501C for > > tax purposes, in the end I'd like it to go to a good home that > > would use it. > > > > I'm located in Brooklyn, N.Y. > > > > > > -- > > Steven Gladstone > > New York Based Cinematographer > > Gladstone films > > Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ > > http://www.blakehousemovie.com > > http://www.gladstonefilms.com > > 917-886-5858 > > _______________________________________________ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >
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