I appreciate that.  Sorry been shotgunning a lot of beers.

-----Original Message-----
>From: graeme hogg <[email protected]>
>Sent: Aug 22, 2012 9:00 AM
>To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical Printing, Contact Printing and Rotoscoping 
>Wizards NEEDED for space pirates  claymation
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>Yeah, the computers that control Optical Printers, they're pretty gay 
>aren't they.
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>> Ben
>>
>> Sounds like a very interesting project and I commend you for working on 
>> 16mm but curious what's "gay" about using a computer? Sounds like 
>> something quite negative since its something you refuse to do?
>>
>> I've just never heard someone refer to using computers as "gay".
>>
>> I personally love 16mm and have made several films in that format. I can 
>> also see why computers can be so detesting to celluloid lovers but have 
>> a hard time understanding why that term was used.
>>
>> It would sound pretty bad if someone said "I refuse to do this on a 
>> computer because that's so girly or sissy or that's so black". That 
>> would sound pretty sexist or racist, no?
>>
>> I just wanted to leave you with some food for thought.
>>
>> Sonali
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>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 2:04 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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>>> Hey just wanted to get some advice for doing some very complicated 
>>> special FX on 16mm film.  I am going to be making a space pirates 
>>> claymation film in the near future and I want to do some very 
>>> complicated optical printing and rotoscoping FX shots.  I know that CRI 
>>> film stock no longer exists but i am going to be filming model 
>>> spaceships in front of a black or bluescreen and I want to know what is 
>>> the best way to go about this without getting any generation loss on my 
>>> film.  I will have to combine many layers of film on an optical printer 
>>> and then I will also have to rotoscope in lazer beams and stuff like 
>>> that so how would I go about that without making my FX shots look super 
>>> grainy?  I refuse to do this on a computer because thats gay so any 
>>> advice would be much appreciated.  I think i will be doin this all in 
>>> the bay area so anyone who wants to help out should do so because its 
>>> going to take a lot of work and I think it could be really sick if we 
>>> do it right.  If none of this is possible then I am going to quit 
>>> filmmaking and cut my lines so tell me what I got to do so I can make 
>>> this movie great.
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