Also how do I make travelling mattes with a bluescreen image?  Do I contact 
print onto hi con film using somekind of filter?


-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>Sent: Aug 22, 2012 10:16 AM
>To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical Printing, Contact Printing and Rotoscoping 
>Wizards NEEDED for space pirates  claymation
>
>I appreciate that.  Sorry been shotgunning a lot of beers.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: graeme hogg <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Aug 22, 2012 9:00 AM
>>To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical Printing, Contact Printing and Rotoscoping 
>>Wizards NEEDED for space pirates claymation
>>
>>
>>
>>Yeah, the computers that control Optical Printers, they're pretty gay 
>>aren't they.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> Sounds like a very interesting project and I commend you for working on 
>>> 16mm but curious what's "gay" about using a computer? Sounds like 
>>> something quite negative since its something you refuse to do?
>>>
>>> I've just never heard someone refer to using computers as "gay".
>>>
>>> I personally love 16mm and have made several films in that format. I can 
>>> also see why computers can be so detesting to celluloid lovers but have 
>>> a hard time understanding why that term was used.
>>>
>>> It would sound pretty bad if someone said "I refuse to do this on a 
>>> computer because that's so girly or sissy or that's so black". That 
>>> would sound pretty sexist or racist, no?
>>>
>>> I just wanted to leave you with some food for thought.
>>>
>>> Sonali
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 2:04 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey just wanted to get some advice for doing some very complicated 
>>>> special FX on 16mm film.  I am going to be making a space pirates 
>>>> claymation film in the near future and I want to do some very 
>>>> complicated optical printing and rotoscoping FX shots.  I know that CRI 
>>>> film stock no longer exists but i am going to be filming model 
>>>> spaceships in front of a black or bluescreen and I want to know what is 
>>>> the best way to go about this without getting any generation loss on my 
>>>> film.  I will have to combine many layers of film on an optical printer 
>>>> and then I will also have to rotoscope in lazer beams and stuff like 
>>>> that so how would I go about that without making my FX shots look super 
>>>> grainy?  I refuse to do this on a computer because thats gay so any 
>>>> advice would be much appreciated.  I think i will be doin this all in 
>>>> the bay area so anyone who wants to help out should do so because its 
>>>> going to take a lot of work and I think it could be really sick if we 
>>>> do it right.  If none of this is possible then I am going to quit 
>>>> filmmaking and cut my lines so tell me what I got to do so I can make 
>>>> this movie great.
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