Hi Space Pirate or anyone other filmy people in the Bay Area... Space pirate Im interested to see your set up - I have done some of what you speak of trying - Maybe I could help out at this stage. Ill be in the Bay Area/SF for a couple weeks.
I really need day light spools...1 to 4 . I brought film to shoot but forgot I need to spool it down...well I forgot what I need to spool it down - well only the day light spools - so if you have any let me know. despite your choice of adjective to describe digital FX I like your dedication to real film FX. I hold to that as well...keep it real. fake real is better than fake fake. But you know being gay is fucking awesome...so I think you meant to use something else in that sentence. ;) xoK On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, <[email protected]>wrote: > Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Optical Printing, Contact Printing and Rotoscoping Wizards > NEEDED for space pirates claymation ([email protected]) > 2. Re: Optical Printing, Contact Printing and Rotoscoping > Wizards NEEDED for space pirates claymation (Sonali) > 3. Re: Optical Printing, Contact Printing and Rotoscoping > Wizards NEEDED for space pirates claymation (Fred Smith) > 4. Re: Optical Printing, Contact Printing and Rotoscoping > Wizards NEEDED for space pirates claymation (graeme hogg) > 5. This Fri+Sat: Outdoor screenings of James Benning and Peter > Hutton (Stefan Grabowski) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:04:29 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > Subject: [Frameworks] Optical Printing, Contact Printing and Rotoscoping > Wizards NEEDED for space pirates claymation > Hey just wanted to get some advice for doing some very complicated special > FX on 16mm film. I am going to be making a space pirates claymation film > in the near future and I want to do some very complicated optical printing > and rotoscoping FX shots. I know that CRI film stock no longer exists but > i am going to be filming model spaceships in front of a black or bluescreen > and I want to know what is the best way to go about this without getting > any generation loss on my film. I will have to combine many layers of film > on an optical printer and then I will also have to rotoscope in lazer beams > and stuff like that so how would I go about that without making my FX shots > look super grainy? I refuse to do this on a computer because thats gay so > any advice would be much appreciated. I think i will be doin this all in > the bay area so anyone who wants to help out should do so because its going > to take a lot of work and I think it could be really sick if we do it > right. If none of this is possible then I am going to quit filmmaking and > cut my lines so tell me what I got to do so I can make this movie great. > Thanks > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Sonali <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:02:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical Printing, Contact Printing and > Rotoscoping Wizards NEEDED for space pirates claymation > Ben > > Sounds like a very interesting project and I commend you for working on > 16mm but curious what's "gay" about using a computer? Sounds like something > quite negative since its something you refuse to do? > > I've just never heard someone refer to using computers as "gay". > > I personally love 16mm and have made several films in that format. I can > also see why computers can be so detesting to celluloid lovers but have a > hard time understanding why that term was used. > > It would sound pretty bad if someone said "I refuse to do this on a > computer because that's so girly or sissy or that's so black". That would > sound pretty sexist or racist, no? > > I just wanted to leave you with some food for thought. > > Sonali > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 2:04 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Hey just wanted to get some advice for doing some very complicated > special FX on 16mm film. I am going to be making a space pirates > claymation film in the near future and I want to do some very complicated > optical printing and rotoscoping FX shots. I know that CRI film stock no > longer exists but i am going to be filming model spaceships in front of a > black or bluescreen and I want to know what is the best way to go about > this without getting any generation loss on my film. I will have to > combine many layers of film on an optical printer and then I will also have > to rotoscope in lazer beams and stuff like that so how would I go about > that without making my FX shots look super grainy? I refuse to do this on > a computer because thats gay so any advice would be much appreciated. I > think i will be doin this all in the bay area so anyone who wants to help > out should do so because its going to take a lot of work and I think it > could be really sick if we do it right. If none of this is possible then I > am going to quit filmmaking and cut my lines so tell me what I got to do so > I can make this movie great. Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Fred Smith" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, "Experimental Film Discussion List" < > [email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:44:29 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical Printing, Contact Printing and > Rotoscoping Wizards NEEDED for space pirates claymation > It all starts with your original footage. DO NOT SKIMP ON IT!!! Get the > best images you can. Use the finist grain film you can. > > If you plan on using black screen for your mattes, I would suggest using > the alternate frontlit/backlit system, where you shoot one frame lit > normally, then the next frame (without moving anything or changing the > camera settings) backlit to provide the black matte, then get the roll skip > printed; Frame 1 on roll A, Frame 2 on roll B, Frame 3 on roll A, etc. > (Bluescreen was invented so mattes could be made without this step and cut > out one generation print). You gain a generation, but the mattes are much > more accurate. > > My $0.02. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> > To: <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.**com <[email protected]>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:04 AM > Subject: [Frameworks] Optical Printing, Contact Printing and Rotoscoping > Wizards NEEDED for space pirates claymation > > > Hey just wanted to get some advice for doing some very complicated >> special FX on 16mm film. I am going to be making a space pirates >> claymation film in the near future and I want to do some very complicated >> optical printing and rotoscoping FX shots. I know that CRI film stock no >> longer exists but i am going to be filming model spaceships in front of a >> black or bluescreen and I want to know what is the best way to go about >> this without getting any generation loss on my film. >> > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: graeme hogg <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:00:40 +0100 (BST) > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical Printing, Contact Printing and > Rotoscoping Wizards NEEDED for space pirates claymation > > > Yeah, the computers that control Optical Printers, they're pretty gay > aren't they. > > > > Ben >> >> Sounds like a very interesting project and I commend you for working on >> 16mm but curious what's "gay" about using a computer? Sounds like something >> quite negative since its something you refuse to do? >> >> I've just never heard someone refer to using computers as "gay". >> >> I personally love 16mm and have made several films in that format. I can >> also see why computers can be so detesting to celluloid lovers but have a >> hard time understanding why that term was used. >> >> It would sound pretty bad if someone said "I refuse to do this on a >> computer because that's so girly or sissy or that's so black". That would >> sound pretty sexist or racist, no? >> >> I just wanted to leave you with some food for thought. >> >> Sonali >> >> On Aug 22, 2012, at 2:04 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Hey just wanted to get some advice for doing some very complicated >>> special FX on 16mm film. I am going to be making a space pirates >>> claymation film in the near future and I want to do some very complicated >>> optical printing and rotoscoping FX shots. I know that CRI film stock no >>> longer exists but i am going to be filming model spaceships in front of a >>> black or bluescreen and I want to know what is the best way to go about >>> this without getting any generation loss on my film. I will have to >>> combine many layers of film on an optical printer and then I will also have >>> to rotoscope in lazer beams and stuff like that so how would I go about >>> that without making my FX shots look super grainy? I refuse to do this on >>> a computer because thats gay so any advice would be much appreciated. I >>> think i will be doin this all in the bay area so anyone who wants to help >>> out should do so because its going to take a lot of work and I think it >>> could be really sick if we do it right. If none of this is possible then I >>> am going to quit filmmaking and cut my lines so tell me what I got to do so >>> I can make this movie great. >>> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Stefan Grabowski <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:51:45 -0400 > Subject: [Frameworks] This Fri+Sat: Outdoor screenings of James Benning > and Peter Hutton > > > > > > > > SHIP TO SHORE · Peter Hutton + James Benning · 8/24 + 8/25 · Boston > +Providence > > Magic Lantern (Providence) and Balagan (Boston) have paired up to present > two outdoor, analog screenings of Peter Hutton and James Benning. The > screenings begin at 8pm and are FREE (though $5+ donations are certainly > welcome). > > Friday, August 24th > Norman B. 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