Mr F Ross, which industry? The experimental film industry?
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:18 PM, chris bravo <[email protected]> wrote: > "It's a commonly accepted industry practice to shoot in HD, then > downsample to SD, particularly for chroma key work" > > um. nope. > > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Aaron F. Ross <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> The level of technical ignorance displayed on this discussion list never >> ceases to amaze me. VHS is much worse than 480p. You're lucky if you get an >> effective resolution of 320 vertical columns on VHS. VHS = ~150,000 pixels, >> 640x480 = 307,200, DVD/DV = 345,600. >> >> It's a commonly accepted industry practice to shoot in HD, then >> downsample to SD, particularly for chroma key work. Most indie makers can't >> afford 4:4:4 pro HD gear, so they shoot in HD, then knock the resolution >> down to lossless 4:4:4 SD before cutting a key. This eliminates the color >> sampling limitations of consumer HD gear & formats. This is the optimal >> pipeline for no-budget VFX work. >> >> Downsampling after compositing will give some relief from the chroma >> sampling limitations, but it's far better to downsample before compositing. >> Just be sure that the downsampled footage is in a lossless format such as >> Quicktime Animation. If you're tight on disk space, you can nest >> compositions or timelines and render the composited SD footage directly, >> with no intermediate. >> >> Aaron >> >> >> >> At 8/17/2013, you wrote: >> >>> Aaron F Ross... downsampling it to 480p is not the same as laying off to >>> tape. It's like suggesting he hands out blurred glasses to anyone viewing >>> the film. It's an interesting idea but not what he's asking for. >>> >>> Jeff Kreines... I agree with you about fixing the mistakes, but the cool >>> part about laying off to tape and then viewing the results, is that laying >>> off to tape and then recapturing the footage creates a copy of the footage, >>> it doesn't modify the original. If he isn't satisfied with the results, >>> he's free to try something else. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Jeff Kreines <<mailto:[email protected]> >>> jeff**@kinetta.com <[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hey Im making a stopmotion video using adobe premiere and it looks >>>> terrible because its HD and looks too crisp. You can see all the shitty >>>> blue screening and whatnot so I want to convert it to VHS so the mistakes >>>> don't look so obvious. >>>> >>> >>> If you want less resolution just to mask the mistakes, why not fix the >>> mistakes rather than make it all look like mush? >>> >>> Of course if you want it all to look mushy, why work in HD in the first >>> place? A generation of VHS will do many things, some of which you may like >>> and others you may not. Choice of format is important. >>> >>> Jeff Kreines >>> Kinetta >>> <mailto:[email protected]>jeff@**kinetta.com <[email protected]> >>> <http://kinetta.com>kinetta.**com <http://kinetta.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> <mailto:FrameWorks@**jonasmekasfilms.com<[email protected]> >>> >FrameWorks**@jonasmekasfilms.com <[email protected]> >>> https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/listinfo/**frameworks<https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ FrameWorks mailing >>> list [email protected] https://mailman-mail5.** >>> webfaction.com/listinfo/**frameworks<https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks> >>> >> >> ------------------------------**------------- >> >> Aaron F. Ross >> Digital Arts Guild >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/listinfo/**frameworks<https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >
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