Hi all,

I heard from our Kodak rep, and I don't really have anything super helpful
to add.  I forwarded her Alex's initial email about upcoming
discontinuations.  She said the products to be discontinued weren't at all
finalized, but that she did expect to see another discontinuation of some
kind issued by the end of the year.  She said she was sad to see the list
in Alex's email, because it was the first she'd heard of any specific
products mentioned, and whether or not that info ends up being correct is
uncertain, but she hoped not.  But I wouldn't be too encouraged, just in

She also mentioned that it's still possible to place an order for 7363
hicon as of today, though I don't know how much longer that'll be the case.
 She said there've been a lot of orders for it, which was unexpected good
news for them, and partly why they've decided to fill all the orders coming
in now as best as possible.

More info as I get it...


On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Alex Balkam <blueswingingd...@gmail.com>

> Hey team Frameworks,
>  I just thought I would share news that I received from Kodak... not sure
> if the list already knew about this and it is repetition but I felt it
> warranted sharing.
>  Probably in December Kodak will be announcing the discontinuation of a
> number of motion picture film products. The products I know about are:
> *7207 & 7203* 100’
> *Tri-X* 400’
> *5222* 1000’
> *7222* 100’ 400’
>  There may be more than I am aware of. This is in addition to the sad news
> about Ektachrome and Hi Con.
>  It may be time for Frameworks to consider contacting (or choosing a
> Frameworks representative to contact) the higher ups at Kodak to express
> the importance that the less industrial, less Hollywood products really
> need to be maintained during this challenging time in order that we can
> continue to expose young filmmakers and the public to the merits and beauty
> of film. All of us on this list help Kodak in various ways by creating our
> works on their film stock, and this in turn helps to ensure films presence
> moving forward in the motion picture world - whether it be workshops with
> kids who will become the filmmakers of the future, experimental cinema or
> the fine arts/gallery settings, our efforts help Kodak and we need to make
> sure we are pleading our case that they maintain the products we use.
> Mainly, I am speaking about Tri-X in 100' 16mm and S8... I was told they
> originally were going to discontinue the 100' loads of Tri-X 16mm.
> Thankfully, enough people (perhaps film schools and educators) sent letters
> to Kodak complaining that this would essentially hinder there ability to
> promote film and inspire new generations to appreciate it, so Kodak is
> continuing its sale for now.
>  Perhaps we need a concerted effort from Frameworks to speak to Kodak
> about the merits of maintaining introductory, educational and smaller gauge
> film products during this time. I am thinking there must be some way to
> make them realize that the only way we will have Tarantinos lobbying major
> production companies to guarantee Kodak contracts in the future is to be
> able to show the next generation what it means to work on film.
>  Thanks!
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