David, That’s awesome - I’m very grateful (as I’m sure everyone on the list is). Can’t wait to listen. All best, Jonathan
Dr. Jonathan Walley Associate Professor and Chair Department of Cinema Denison University wall...@denison.edu > On Feb 26, 2018, at 5:15 PM, David Baker <dbak...@hvc.rr.com> wrote: > > Dr. Walley, > > I can not help with regard to the question, where did 7360 Sukiyaki premier? > However I have uploaded to Vimeo an audio recording of Tony's projection / > performance > at Millennium Film Workshop on 6-15-74 > which may be of interest to you, your research associate or others on this > list. > > https://vimeo.com/257530075 <https://vimeo.com/257530075> > > This recording includes: > > Film Feedback > > Projection of film that has been subjected to hammering, reassembled. > > Projection of films subjected to electrocution > > Projection of curried film. > ( Curry by Marian Zazeela) > > Projection of creoled film stock > > 7360 Deep Fried - to be looked at sans projection > > Discussion of film pickling, film as a culinary ingredient > “film material behaves more or less like onions” > > 7360 Sukiyaki > > Q & A > > Power to the people, > > David > > >> On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Jonathan Walley <wall...@denison.edu >> <mailto:wall...@denison.edu>> wrote: >> >> Thank you, d.olivier, for that perspective. I remember Tony telling me >> something similar about cost, specifically that he had a notion of scale >> where the cooked, etc. films could be made for the cost of a lunch. >> >> You’re right about the missing scholarship on Tony’s video and public access >> work. A million years ago I did a very little bit of work on it, which was >> included in my dissertation but never made it any further. >> >> The only works I know of during this period that could genuinely be >> characterized as being “performances about projection” are Sukiyaki, Bowed >> Film, and Film Feedback (of course, it depends upon how elastic Tony’s >> definition of “performance” is, but still…). So I’m even more (reasonably) >> confident that Sukiyaki began its life at Antioch. [Interesting side note, >> the “premiere” date Tony listed for Sukiyaki in the MFJ article - 12/17/73 - >> was the same day that Antioch announced the firing of a couple dozen >> teaching faculty because the college was in dire financial straits. I have >> to guess that this included Tony, who moved on to Binghamton the following >> spring.] >> >> Thanks again - if anyone else has clues for the great 7360 Sukiyaki >> investigation, chime in. >> >> Best, >> JW >> >> Dr. Jonathan Walley >> Associate Professor and Chair >> Department of Cinema >> Denison University >> wall...@denison.edu <mailto:wall...@denison.edu> >>> On Feb 24, 2018, at 6:01 PM, d. olivier delrieu-schulze >>> <d.delrieuschu...@gmail.com <mailto:d.delrieuschu...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Tony talked about doing a performance of “film projection” at Antioch. He >>> also said that his pickled films and cooked films were a response to being >>> criticized by other makers at Antioch. Primarily for making work that >>> wasn’t directly engaging with social justice issues. That film was >>> expensive and to make work that didn’t directly address isssues like >>> poverty was irresponsible. >>> >>> So. In t0ny’s positively spiteful way he said “fine I’ll just use scraps >>> of film and pickle them! That costs almost nothing!” >>> >>> It’s not a surprise that there isn’t a clear record as Antioch went through >>> a lot of changes since then. >>> >>> This incidence along with the video activism/public access work, I think, >>> shows a significant shift of tony’s work pre/during/post Antioch. This is >>> glaringly absent from most of the scholarship about Tony’s work. >>> >>> -d.olivier >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:17 PM Jonathan Walley <wall...@denison.edu >>> <mailto:wall...@denison.edu>> wrote: >>> Hello Frameworkers, >>> >>> I have a question about Tony Conrad’s performance 7360 Sukiyaki, which I’m >>> asking on behalf of another researcher. It’s a simple question, really, but >>> has become quite the little puzzle. >>> >>> The question is where the work was “premiered.” In an essay he wrote for >>> MFJ called “Is This Penny Ante or a High Stakes Game?”, Tony listed three >>> performance dates for the work: December 17, 1973, April 27, 1974, and June >>> 15, 1974. The latter two dates I have been able to nail down: The Walker >>> Art Center and the Millennium. That leaves the December 17, ’73 date, >>> apparently the premiere. My educated guess is that this took place at >>> Antioch, which Tony was teaching at the time (he left shortly after to >>> teach at Binghamton, then, of course, SUNY Buffalo). The researcher I’ve >>> been talking to has not been able to find anything about a performance at >>> Antioch (my guess is that it was a very low-key affair, possibly connected >>> with a class, as was Film Feedback); she is trying to eliminate Anthology >>> or any other NY venue as a possible site of the premiere. She’s even >>> contacted the archivist at Antioch and gotten more-or-less a non-responsive >>> response. >>> >>> Any ideas? I know it’s a lot of verbiage for what seems like a tiny >>> question, but since I’ve spent a few days figuring out the other dates and >>> sort of mapping Tony’s travels between 1972 and 1975, I’ve developed an >>> obsession with answering this question. Not that it would be the end of the >>> world if I didn’t (especially since it’s not even my research project). >>> >>> Related to this: I have not been able to determine when/where/by whom this >>> photo was taken: >>> https://yswriting.wordpress.com/2016/04/18/tony-conrad-critical-audiovisions/ >>> >>> <https://yswriting.wordpress.com/2016/04/18/tony-conrad-critical-audiovisions/> >>> >>> I’m quite sure it’s not the Walker Art Center, but beyond that I’m >>> clueless. >>> >>> Thanks everyone! >>> JW >>> >>> Dr. Jonathan Walley >>> Associate Professor and Chair >>> Department of Cinema >>> Denison University >>> wall...@denison.edu <mailto:wall...@denison.edu> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com <mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> <https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks> >>> -- >>> ___________________ _ _ _ __________________ >>> >>> d. olivier delrieu-schulze >>> ______________________ >>> >>> sent by Commodore 64 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com <mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> <https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com <mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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