On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:05:06 +0300 Slawa Olhovchenkov <s...@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 02:05:32PM -0700, Chris H wrote: > > > On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:09:10 +0930 Shane Ambler <free...@shaneware.biz> > > wrote > > > On 12/07/2016 06:54, Conrad Meyer wrote: > > > > DVD-R dates to 1997; cheap USB flash devices are now pervasive. Maybe > > > > it's time to move on from CD. > > > > > > +1 on dropping CD images. I haven't burnt a CD in over 10 years and I > > > don't believe I have seen a CD only drive in that time. Even with a CD > > > size image I have burnt them to DVD, I first started this because > > > transfer speeds of DVD's are faster and nowadays it costs almost the > > > same to burn a DVD. So I see zero benefit to using CD's and that's > > > before thinking of reusable USB devices. > > > > > > I do think there is a benefit to keeping the small boot only image > > > available that can be used to start/recover a machine that can then > > > download any data to be installed. > > > > > > -- > > > FreeBSD - the place to B...Storing Data > > > > > > Shane Ambler > > > > > > > -1 > > There is no *good* reason that FreeBSD can't maintain the CD image. > > I think the *real* question here is; *why* is it now so hard to fit > > it on a CD? > > clang main binary now 50MB size (27MB for 10.x) -- on live FS and in base.txz. > 11.x now ship lldb (on live FS too) -- 50MB also binary -- on live FS > and in base.txz. > kernel now 26M vs 12M on 10.3. > kernel with modules now 115MB vs 54MB on 10.3 > total size of *.a now 50M (vs 48M). > > All binaries slightly bigger: usr/bin/ld from 1580008 to 1615912 (+2%). > _______________________________________________ > email@example.com mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" More than a decade ago, some of us ran into trouble with floppy disks and/or tapes, when software started to outgrow some older media. The tribute to progress is, in some aspects, also to sacrifice. FreeBSD is one of the few free operating systems which provides a plethora of installation media - compared to some PR-shiny alternatives from the camp "Linux". A CD is still a used media, but it starts getting squeezy on it as certain software starts to grow - as CLANG/LLVM does. Maybe it is time to have also CDs as "miniboot" and DVDs for a more complete installation media? Kind regards, oh _______________________________________________ firstname.lastname@example.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"