-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org 
[mailto:owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Zhihao Yuan
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:54 PM
To: Mike Meyer
Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD



Well, let's make it more straightforward. I hope people can agree with
this: a default, officially supported modern desktop environment is essential 
to FreeBSD.





This has already been answered. If you want a FreeBSD with a "default" 
graphical desktop environment, install PC-BSD. Otherwise FreeBSD is not really 
for the "install complete running workstation out of the box" crowd, Its more 
the "let me customize my system to exactly the way I want it" crowd, which has 
been a detriment to getting the silly linux fanboys to drop their script Kiddy 
style lifestyles of just accepting whatever their linux distro provides.

Therefore you will never see a default graphical option outside of the basics 
of X11. Besides, the options you mentioned are not part of the graphical window 
managers, they are plugins and other utilities that happen to run parallel and 
have GUI tie-ins. Most of them really are nothing more than console programs 
with a graphical config screen.

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