On Monday 16 February 2004 3:16 am, Kent Stewart wrote:
> On Sunday 15 February 2004 07:04 pm, Chris wrote:
> > On Sunday 15 February 2004 09:00 pm, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> > > Chris wrote:
> > > > Is is me? Or has something changed in 5.2 that tends to make
> > > > systems freeze up during portupgrade? Mainly - KDE-3.2.0
> > > >
> > > > That being said, I seem to be seeing this more often on other
> > > > upgrades. Strange thing is, I considered it to be my PC however,
> > > > I never seem to run into the total freeze when doing a
> > > > buildworld.
> > >
> > > No trouble here upgrading 5.2 to current on my desktop and no
> > > trouble upgrading my 5.2p1 to 5.2RC2 on my server.  I suspect your
> > > problem is hardware or driver related.
> > >
> > > Tom Veldhouse
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> >     My upgrades (5.2.1 -> 5.2.1-RC1 -> 5.2.1-RC2) went flawless. The
> > issues I'm having is during portupgrade.
> >
> > Kent,
> >     Interesting - I did as you advised. I am typically running between
> > 113 and 125 degrees (F) My AMD did come with a fan. Perchance I ought
> > to look into alternative cooling?
> Mine ran like that for 53 weeks. The warranty was for 52. When it died,
> it litterally blew one of the voltage regulator ICs on the motherboard.
> All I saw was a flash of light at the same time as a loud bang and the
> top right corner of the IC disappeared. Out was towards me but I didn't
> feel it hit nor could I find it.

Much as I love AMD, I would have to agree about the fans. I bought boxed CPUs 
with fans as I expected that this would provide the right level of cooling 
(and reliability). IIRC the warranty was 2 years. When the first one went 
"wobbly" I replaced the lot. It's just not worth taking the chance.

To the OP, re temperatures. I wouldn't rely too much on what other peoples 
systems report.

The actual temperature of the CPU is going to depend on the speed and CPU core 
architecture (and maybe the BIOS) vs the ambient temp/cooling.

This is as opposed to the temperature reported. The accuracy is going vary 
with method (chip) which means, which M/B. I somehow doubt the sensors are 
individually calibrated against a lab standard.

If you can find somone with the same CPU/Motherboard, those numbers would be 
slightly more useful.

As a counter example my 2100+/Gigabyte GA-VTXE+ (BIOS F6a) sits at 54C idle 
and around 60C when busy. It's perfectly stable (on stable, not current).
[With fvcool idle temp = 30C]

If I forget to clean the filters, the temperature will rise, and the system 
becomes increasingly unstable. A few degrees increase is enough.

My advice is to clean any filters, fans and heatsinks and check the fans spin 
correctly. If the box runs cooler, note the temperature for future reference.

> The current fans look like the Antec fans you can see in a Circuit City
> or Best Buy. You can mail order them but I think I would buy one sooner
> than that :). You have been having problems for quite a while now and
> that may be what is going on.
> Kent

ian j hart


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