On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 12:41:47AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Monday 24 May 2004 10:53 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:30:09PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 09:45:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
[[ ... ]] > It will be slow by modern standards but probably a lot faster than what > you are using now. I wouldn't buy it because it is a duron and not an > XP. That is sort of simiar to buying a Celeron and not a P-4. I don't > think the Duron's have either the data paths or bandwidth. Besides, > what I see is 2400+'s going for $80+ and the 133MHZ fsb is > IMPORTANT :). I also think that USB-2 is important for future options. So there are different flavors of AMD? Hm. I just found this computer store and they have a 'barebones' box for $200 and would be only too happy to have me upgrade the processor, mem,, and drive. > > FWIW, none of my new systems have floppies and the smallest has 3 x 40GB > HDs. The new HDs all run ATA-133 and have 8MB of cache. I have about > 40GB of mp3 and wma that I have created from CDs that I own and backup > on one of the 2400's. It isn't the one with the 3-40's :). None of the > on-board audio connect to the CD-Rom with a digital connection. Digital > extraction turns out to be very important when converting audio cds. They've got a 120G drivefor around $80, IIRC... For me, having lots of memory is more important than a large drive; but thn I don't have forty G of mp3's! > > An ATA-133 controller is also important because you will find it > difficult to buy HDs under 120GB and the older mobo may not recognize > the newer, large ones. A 2400+ with ATA-133 HDs will do a buildworld in > 18 minutes. > > > > > Anyway, this one can be a starting point if/when I spring > > for it. But what about the Video and Sound? Are the FBSD > > problems going to ID the kind of chipsets on this board? > > I happen to like Creative Audigy Sound Cards and only 5-current will > recognize it. I don't have a high opinion of on mobo sound but I am > using one. I definitely do not like on board video. Every system I have > had to support with on board video came up lacking but my fastest ftp > sessions come between 2 machines with onboard SiS NICs. In the end, my > only won't touch bias is on board video. On this server (i815), the video uses the system SDRAM and since I'm not a gamer whatever chip-set this has is adequate. Anyboy know what kind of on-board video comes with the AMD mobo's? (Am I going to be pulling my hair trying to get it working? in other words.) > > I am currently using 4-stable on that system with the Audigy and do > without sound on those days when I boot that system to FreeBSD. Most of > the time it is running XP because I have to maintain my Nomad Zen2 from > XP. It also shares a monitor, keyboard, and mouse with the 3 systems > that run FreeBSD almost 100%.The 2 - 2400's run FreeBSD most of the > time. The 1400 Duron will probably take 2-3x longer. > > > > > Would you gents, Chris, Kent, Kris, recommend a second or > > second and third fan? The AMD's are known to run hot. > > This is at computersonics, just down the hill and a few/several > > bloks east. > > > > The last 2 2400+ XPs that I bought had enough fans on them. They run > setiathome 24x7, which keeps the cpu at 100%. I have one in an Antec > Sonata case and the other in one of the other Antec's. The Sonata has > its name spelled in holes at the top of both sides of the case but only > has a 120mm push fan. The Sonata power supply has 2 fans that help keep > the system cool. It runs 4-5oC cooler than the other 2400+ in the other > Antec case that has both a push and pull 120mm case fans. The HDs pull > out from the side, which makes accessing them very easy. Almost all of > my cases have 3 or more fans that cool the cases. I don't want to lose > a system because the case got too hot because the only fan died. > > Think about what you will be content with for x-more years and go with > it. If it is the 1400, so be it. When I buy something, I want to know > all of the negatives so that what I buy is the combo that irritates me > the least :). > Thanks for your input. It's helping me to know what to avoid; and what things to consider. I probably will go for the XP and an 80G drive. The "integrated" audio and video are still open questions. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix _______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"