On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 12:41:47AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote:
> On Monday 24 May 2004 10:53 pm, Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:30:09PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 09:45:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
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> It will be slow by modern standards but probably a lot faster than what
> you are using now. I wouldn't buy it because it is a duron and not an
> XP. That is sort of simiar to buying a Celeron and not a P-4. I don't
> think the Duron's have either the data paths or bandwidth. Besides,
> what I see is 2400+'s going for $80+ and the 133MHZ fsb is
> IMPORTANT :). I also think that USB-2 is important for future options.
So there are different flavors of AMD? Hm. I just found
this computer store and they have a 'barebones' box for $200
and would be only too happy to have me upgrade the processor,
mem,, and drive.
> FWIW, none of my new systems have floppies and the smallest has 3 x 40GB
> HDs. The new HDs all run ATA-133 and have 8MB of cache. I have about
> 40GB of mp3 and wma that I have created from CDs that I own and backup
> on one of the 2400's. It isn't the one with the 3-40's :). None of the
> on-board audio connect to the CD-Rom with a digital connection. Digital
> extraction turns out to be very important when converting audio cds.
They've got a 120G drivefor around $80, IIRC... For me,
having lots of memory is more important than a large drive;
but thn I don't have forty G of mp3's!
> An ATA-133 controller is also important because you will find it
> difficult to buy HDs under 120GB and the older mobo may not recognize
> the newer, large ones. A 2400+ with ATA-133 HDs will do a buildworld in
> 18 minutes.
> > Anyway, this one can be a starting point if/when I spring
> > for it. But what about the Video and Sound? Are the FBSD
> > problems going to ID the kind of chipsets on this board?
> I happen to like Creative Audigy Sound Cards and only 5-current will
> recognize it. I don't have a high opinion of on mobo sound but I am
> using one. I definitely do not like on board video. Every system I have
> had to support with on board video came up lacking but my fastest ftp
> sessions come between 2 machines with onboard SiS NICs. In the end, my
> only won't touch bias is on board video.
On this server (i815), the video uses the system SDRAM and
since I'm not a gamer whatever chip-set this has is adequate.
Anyboy know what kind of on-board video comes with the
AMD mobo's? (Am I going to be pulling my hair trying to get
it working? in other words.)
> I am currently using 4-stable on that system with the Audigy and do
> without sound on those days when I boot that system to FreeBSD. Most of
> the time it is running XP because I have to maintain my Nomad Zen2 from
> XP. It also shares a monitor, keyboard, and mouse with the 3 systems
> that run FreeBSD almost 100%.The 2 - 2400's run FreeBSD most of the
> time. The 1400 Duron will probably take 2-3x longer.
> > Would you gents, Chris, Kent, Kris, recommend a second or
> > second and third fan? The AMD's are known to run hot.
> > This is at computersonics, just down the hill and a few/several
> > bloks east.
> The last 2 2400+ XPs that I bought had enough fans on them. They run
> setiathome 24x7, which keeps the cpu at 100%. I have one in an Antec
> Sonata case and the other in one of the other Antec's. The Sonata has
> its name spelled in holes at the top of both sides of the case but only
> has a 120mm push fan. The Sonata power supply has 2 fans that help keep
> the system cool. It runs 4-5oC cooler than the other 2400+ in the other
> Antec case that has both a push and pull 120mm case fans. The HDs pull
> out from the side, which makes accessing them very easy. Almost all of
> my cases have 3 or more fans that cool the cases. I don't want to lose
> a system because the case got too hot because the only fan died.
> Think about what you will be content with for x-more years and go with
> it. If it is the 1400, so be it. When I buy something, I want to know
> all of the negatives so that what I buy is the combo that irritates me
> the least :).
Thanks for your input. It's helping me to know what to
avoid; and what things to consider. I probably will go
for the XP and an 80G drive. The "integrated" audio
and video are still open questions.
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