On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Adam Vande More <amvandem...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Aryeh Friedman 
> <aryeh.fried...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> It sounds almost identical to the qcow2 security issue being discussed on
>> qemu-de...@qemu.org recently.   This might be a *HUGE* win for bhyve
>> then in considering that it's default format is raw (should ahci-hdd be the
>> default?).   devel/qemu (not sure about -dev) uses qcow2 as a default and
>> when playing with it on other OS's I found that it seemed to default to
>> that also.  It is my understand that most of the open source cloud
>> platforms use qcow2 as their default also (I remember this from an attempt
>> to install openstack grizzly last summer... I have not checked havana
>> though... can any of the freebsd-openstack confirm this?).
>>
>
> I don't consider it a huge win because the possibility of using an
> insecure device precludes it.  Someone high on the tree bhyve needs to
> confirm or deny this otherwise it is unsafe to recommend bhyve
> or petitecloud.  No offense intended, I really hope it succeeds and will
> likely use it if it does.  I cannot use anything which leaves the host
> open.  I am also unclear on how bhyve bypasses GEOM which *should* prevent
> any of the symptoms discussed.
>

The point was that raw has no issue and this is the default for both bhyve
and petitecloud (to avoid certain list politics I didn't mention it by name
before).   Sparse is the issue and thus qemu, openstack and cloudstack (as
well as likely vbox) are a problem.


-- 
Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org
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