Hello, :: Jonas Smedegaard Donnerstag 09 Juni 2011 > Isn't Akonadi a KDE framework. I don't follow - do you suggest to run > KDE on the FreedomBox?!?
Akonadi is just an example which I'm slightly familiar with so I put it there as potential candidate. I'm happy to include other personal data storage frameworks or web resource caching frameworks in that diagram. It's supposed to somehow provide the big picture of how things currently work together or are supposed to work together some months from now when taking today's ongoing development efforts into account. The lack of documentation is indeed an issue; today I've seen that there's also been a connector for some Google services which process personal data available and Debian-packaged for about two years. (NB1. Akonadi is not dependent on KDE, and seems to run fine on smaller devices like smartphones.) (NB2. If a desktop should be run on the FreedomBox probably depends on its nature. If it's the proverbial plug computer, then my understanding is that it might run some of the components which are currently contained in the desktops of every device with a desktop, such as the wallet containing the credentials to online services or the personal data storage, and makes them accessible to connecting devices. If however my notebook or smartphone serves as a FreedomBox by just installing or activating the right packages, then it will obviously run a desktop by itself. Such differentiations are not the focus of my work though; I simply assume that there will be some integration with the desktop as the user's control interface to his or her devices and services.) > I guess it is useful with a URL to some more info than the picture. That's what my plan is, to write down some text once I've found enough information about what is out there and especially how well it works already. > Agreed. Any suggestions on where to gather? > > Personally (since Perl is what I can code) I hang out with perlrdf[0] > folks on IRC and also follow the foaf-protocols[1] mailinglist. > > [0]: http://www.perlrdf.org/ > > [1]: http://lists.foaf-project.org/mailman/listinfo/foaf-protocols Thanks for these two. It's certainly a good idea to start with a list of already existing communication spaces instead of opening yet another one without reason. > Sounds great. Could you list some concrete examples of ready-to-use > tools in this area - or perhaps a pointer to some summary list. It > might very well be that I am missing lots of cool progress on this > front. Those not yet contained in the diagram (for the simple reason of me also being mostly uninformed about them) seem to be built on Folks or QtFolks and Telepathy. At least that's my impression from what I experienced when using Maemo and Meego devices where the whole setup of contacts seems to be more intuitive, direct and first-class when compared to traditional desktops. However, this experience severely degrades when looking at events and especially content in social networks. There are also a couple of additional libraries like libsocialweb and its - plugins-extra extension, both of which seem to target using (or migrating off) proprietary services. Their use is certainly goverened by some ToS, though. A specific question still to decide is if it should be a goal that all information ever pushed by a user to a remote service should be kept as a local replica just in case the site or network will become (permanently) unavailable. None of the current systems gives such a hard guarantee. Most users of today's sites don't invest the effort to keep manual copies; the question is therefore if they expect it to be magically there or if they just don't care if it won't be there. If the guarantee shall be given, a much tighter integration with the desktop including its application (both conventional desktop applications and local web applications) would need to be implemented for enforcement, consistency and manageability. Josef _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss
