that's not quite accurate. it's slowly being phased out. fedora is the first
linux to have wayland.
it uses a single window.
>________________________________
> From: Jim Michaels <jmich...@yahoo.com>
>To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.
><freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS limits! and FDNPKG v0.93a released
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>
>
>did you know X was tabled in favor of something new? Wayland.
>also, read here for info on competitors.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System#Competitors
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com>
>>To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.
>><freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 9:57 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS limits! and FDNPKG v0.93a released
>>
>>
>>Hi, sorry for late reply,
>>
>>On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Charles Belhumeur
>><chbelhumeur2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply. Glad some of you see things in a way similar to I.
>>> Remember the OS on the Amstrad Family Computer. I guess that's what I'd
>>> like to see for a user interface for FreeDos. Perhaps a little more grown
>>> up for modern Intel boxes. It was a small tidy GUI style OS.
>>
>>Would GEM (aka, OpenGEM) suffice? That's a good as a GUI as we've
>>presently got in
FreeDOS.
>>
>>> Task
>>> switching but not multi-tasking. Not a lot of code or effort to create that
>>> OS by modern standards. Although I think some of the features were in the
>>> firmware on that box. Brings back the remark one of you made about roll
>>> your own BIOS.
>>
>>Not sure how easy task switching would be. (Usually such a thing is
>>associated with 286s.) Sure, it can be done (a la MS' DOSSHELL), but
>>I'm not sure how feasible it is in FreeDOS stuff without some fancy
>>work. Probably easier to use coroutines (or similar) in specific apps
>>to simulate the same thing.
>>
>>There apparently was a GEM/XM (buggy, unfinished) beta (eventually
>>GPL'd) for DOS that did task switching, but it wasn't ever finalized.
>>Honestly, I'm out of the loop, but I don't know of anyone maintaining
>>(any parts of) GEM anymore. At least I can't seem to find Shane's
>>homepage(s) online anymore.
>>
>>>
Ah its all coming back to me now. The Adam Home Computer, the Commodore
>>> 6060 (BASIC OS like the HP Workstations). Man I spent a lot of my life
>>> wrestling with flaky boxes and compilers. Hard to believe I got any other
>>> work done at the various jobs I've worked at. Don't have a lot of patience
>>> left for flaky overcomplicated overreaching OSs and apps.
>>
>>I don't know. Most Linux developers seem to rely on X11. FreeBSD at
>>least comes without X pre-installed. But I'm not sure how much
>>graphical stuff you can do without X11, outside of DOS + VESA,
>>naturally. (Svgalib isn't very popular these days, and Linux
>>framebuffer ... I'm out of the loop, so no idea.)
>>
>>> Could the leftover RAM on a modern box be used for a disk cache or virtual
>>> drive? FreeDos can do this right. I used to create a virtual drive and
>>> then copy my menu app binaries and directory to it
at boot. Significantly
>>> improved performance with a disk cache as well on my old 12 MHz 286.
>>
>>I don't know of any decent 286 disk caches for FreeDOS, but yes, many
>>of us use things like Jack's (386+) UIDE for UDMA and disk caching, as
>>well as a RAM driver for (faster reading/writing of) temporary files.
>>Yes, even on modern overpowered machines, it can speed things up a
>>lot.
>>
>>> Just an example of how unused RAM can be used creatively to improve
>>> performance.
>>> There's likely more. Could you write a ghost BIOS, copy it to RAM and then
>>> redirect BIOS calls to it? Maybe not all the BIOS calls, just the required
>>> ones. Writing BIOSs used to a bit of voodoo and a black art dealing with
>>> hardware timing and such.
>>
>>Not a lot of people want to write their own BIOSes. I don't (and
>>couldn't if I tried). So I think that option is probably unlikely to
>>be practical, though
indeed a very few have tried and succeeded (in
>>limited form) over the years, e.g. monahan dude, SeaBIOS, Coreboot, or
>>whatever.
>>
>>> Oh wait before I go, there's good reasons you can't divy up gene sequence
>>> files into smaller chunks. Each segment would need header with even more
>>> info than the original header. Bioinformatics is kind of messed up now with
>>> all the wankers focused on the IT and not the biology. All kinds of
>>> needless screwing with file formats, file structures, compression and so on.
>>> (Some wanker got into the game way way way back in the day and we've been
>>> stuck with that Big Endian Small Endian crap ever since.)
>>
>>I refuse to believe you couldn't live with 2 GB files. :-) But
>>what do I know. Just use whatever works, whatever's at hand. I don't
>>expect FreeDOS to cover everyone's need, but it's quite good at what
>>it does (and then
some, thanks to some very cool developers and
>>volunteers).
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