Hi Jayden,

> Why would ASUS base their BIOS off of FreeDOS anyway? I mean, FreeDOS IS nice

I doubt that they use DOS as "base" of their "BIOS".
They probably use DOS for some other purposes, for
example to help you to run their BIOS update tool.

> and all, but is it really at the stage yet where it can be implemented in
> corporate machines? I think we should make FreeDOS able to be embedded in
> corporate systems. If we can pull that off, EVERYONE can use FreeDOS, not just

Neither embedded nor corporate operating systems are
something that "everybody" uses. If I press the button
on my remote control, I want my HiFi to turn on. For
that I do not want to know whether it runs DOS and I
do not want to play Doom on my remote control, so DOS
has no added value as embedded OS for remote controls.

> at home hobby people. Perhaps we could start cracking down on a Network
> version of FreeDOS? Like for servers and embedded systems, ETC. This would

There are excellent embedded and server operating systems
with good network support, for example Linux, which even
is open source and free of cost. DOS has other strengths.

> [1] Make us even more noticed

Noticed yes, but people will keep using Linux for servers.

> [2] Allow our system to be used in large scales

Why would that be an advantage?

> [3] Get ASUS off of our backs

Asus probably just wanted a simple DOS boot disk. So they
do not need network DOS as far as I can tell. Also, some
modern BIOSes even have built-in web browsers, based on
mini Linux distros :-)

> [4] Keep the legacy from the first FreeDOS going.

That is exactly why the best thing for DOS to do is run
DOS programs. Those programs are not server software :-)

> Perhaps we can begin studying (I havent the slightest clue on how this
> would work) on how mainframes and servers work with embedded systems. We can

Mainframes do not work with embedded systems. Networked
appliances use small versions of Linux as "embedded" OS,
for example your internet modem or network harddisk or
that harddisk or projector with built-in video player...

> then have our devel folks work on this problem, and slowly but surely make
> progress. Just an idea, as I don't want some major corporation trying to sue 
> us.

Our devel folks are not our employees, so they only do what
they find interesting to do for DOS software. Also, this is
not related in any way to anybody sueing anybody anyway...



To also answer the UEFI topic: Most computers with UEFI
firmware also still support BIOS boot mode. Only if the
firmware is UEFI without BIOS support, you would want to
load SeaBIOS or similar modules on top of the UEFI system
to provide BIOS services, which in turn will allow DOS to
run on the system. However, SeaBIOS is not yet a very well
known and easy to use thing as far as I know. Also, if you
have a computer which is so new that it has no BIOS at all
and only UEFI, it probably also has one of those modern 16
core CPU and 100s of gigabytes of RAM - all of which will
serve no purpose in DOS. I simply cannot imagine any DOS-
specific computation which would work better with several
cores or more than a few gigabytes of RAM. So you would be
the owner of fancy hardware which for 90% is bored by DOS,
because it does not need so big hardware. I recommend that
you run a fancy 64 bit operating system on such computers,
with a cute little simulation of some older computer with
a BIOS inside, then run DOS inside that simulation, while
the other 90% of your fancy hardware design new genomes or
play 5-dimensional games at quad-hd screen resolution :-)

Regards, Eric

PS: Please do use space after punctuation marks. It indeed
makes text more readable. Otherwiseitwouldbemoreorlessasif
yourspacekeywouldbebrokenandeverythingwouldsticktoonestring.



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