Hi Eric,

Well, your argument is compelling, but I think it sort of misses the point.
FreeDOS is a system for legacy hardware - I mean - really legacy. My oldest
laptop is 15 years old, and even that has hardware that is 'too new' and
not supported by FreeDOS. I'm currently trying to nail a Packet driver
together for its Broadcom Nextreme NIC, but if that'll work is a matter of
'we'll see'.

I think you're asking two implicit questions here: a) Should we abandon 16
bit hardware as nobody has any, which would mean FreeDOS goes 32bit.

The second question is: What is it for? If you have 32bit hardware in the
first place, And except for a few stray early pentiums we're talking about
machines that can run dosbox at reasonable speeds, why FreeDOS? I mean, you
can run just about every DOS Software on a puny littleRaspberry Pi.

Not trying to get too philosophical here - I like FreeDos for he nostalgic
fuzzies - but that group is a rather small one.I think FreeDos needs to
find its main purpose and then adjust course accordingly.

sorry for the rambling, it's been a long day...

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 23:30, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote:

>
> Danilo,
>
> > First of all, if the idea of an 80x25 single file editor frightens you,
> > you're either a wimp or too young to have done any programming when that
> > was the norm. May I introduce you to Turbo Pascal 3.0? 80x25 text is the
> > best there is.
>
> Tom is neither, but you could argue that he could use more modern,
> more advanced editors for DOS, with higher text mode resolutions.
>
> On the other hand, his impressive FreeDOS development track record
> shows that cross-compiling from another system or using DOS in a
> window while using another host operating system for the rest of
> your activities does not keep you from being productive DOS-wise :-)
>
> I think it is an important point that ancient machines are no longer
> widespread. There is little use in having a 640k, 16-bit scandisk
> or defrag for FAT32, if nobody has managed to connect a large disk
> to such ancient hardware. So it is fine for me that dosfsck needs
> a 386 to check FAT32 partitions.
>
> People today seem to be more worried about the other end of the
> spectrum: Why is DOS limiting them to 2 TB disk size or 3 GB of
> RAM, running on only 1 of their 16 CPU cores? Not that I would
> know ANY application for DOS which would need that kind of power,
> I agree that people wonder whether DOS *may* use it, now that the
> 2020 PC on their desk has it anyway :-)
>
> Cheers, Eric
>
>
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