On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 at 02:52, Ralf Quint <freedos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, it was OS2.NLM for Netware 3.1x up to 4.10, for 4.11, they named > it LONG.NLM. Faint memory now but sounds right. > I think starting with Netware 5.0, it was a build-in > module, no need to load a special name space anymore. Could be. I did a training course on NW5 but never deployed it in prod. > But by that time, > the easy use of Netware was gone.... IMO that disappeared with 4. > Yeah, that one I remember wasn't very popular, when thinking about that > one, actually old "MC Hammer" comes into my head, "can't touch that"... đŸ˜› You needed a Mac client for Netware, and it wasn't popular. I did see it a handful of times but the kind of companies who bought Macs and Netware were, in my world, mutually exclusive. > Don't recall anything like this. Also hard to imagine, given the way how > they handled permissions. After all, you wouldn't even see sub > directories you didn't have the rights to access (one of the stupid > things in Windows,). Even so. Internally: name begins with $XC%CVBE$%XD%, then don't let users $45678 see that... > IIRC, when trying once to do some data recovery on > a Netware drive with the help of some folks at Compaq, it was very > similar to a FAT filesystem. Yup. > Novell never published any technical info > about the file system Yup. It was one nearly half meg file of handcoded assembly, and only a few senior programmers understood it. It was the crown jewels and they couldn't modernise or adapt it. Which is why NW5 brought in a whole new FS, but that didn't have the performance and brough them down to mainstream nondedicated OS level. > and the guys at Compaq could only give me hints > over the phone, they had tech info from Novell but were not allowed to > share anything in hard copy from that... Sounds highly plausible. > I never used anything past 4.11, they tried to compete too much with NT > Server at that time already and everything from 5.0 and up was a hot mess. Somewhat but it did get better-integrated with time. > Might have to check if anyone ever continued to work on MARSNWE, which > looked promising for a while until the original author dropped it. Just > saw that a couple of years ago, it had been put up on GitHub (GitLab?) For a while but it's EOL now, I believe. IPX was removed from the kernel just recently (as an aside) https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/03/linux_may_soon_lose_support/ I wrote about it. > Have a server (I think it's a 486 with 16MB RAM and something like a > 1.2GB data drive), running a 10 user Netware 3.12, sitting hidden in my > storage, something like this would be a great "companion" to FreeDOS... :-) -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven UK: (+44) 7939-087884 ~ Czech [+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal]: (+420) 702-829-053 _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel