Michael, Eric, & All:

I went into this round of tests with this configuration, and cut back 
progressively as I describe below:

LASTDRIVE=Z
BUFFERS=30
FILES=40
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DOSDATA=UMB
DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEM.EXE
DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=TEST VDS
SHELL=C:\command.com C:\ /E:512 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS
SET PATH=C:\NET;C:\;C:\FDOS\bin;C:\DOSSHELL;C:\PKZIP
SET TEMP=C:\FDOS\TEMP
SET TMP=C:\FDOS\TEMP
CTMOUSE

I do not find any combination of options for EMM386 that will work: adding 
NOALTBOOT, removing VDS, removing NOEMS.

If I do not load EMM386 at all and just run HIMEM (keeping DOS=HIGH,UMB and 
DOSDATA=UMB), GEM Draw, Doodle and Paint all reboot while loading.

If I then also remove DOSDATA=UMB, all three programs either reboot or hang 
while loading.

If I then also remove DOS=HIGH,UMB, all three programs will load, but all 
three hang while quitting.

If I then also remove HIMEM, Draw both loads and quits, Doodle loads but 
hangs while quitting (except that the mouse pointer is still active), and 
there is insufficient memory to load Paint.

If I then also remove CTMOUSE from AUTOEXEC and operate GEM in mouse-free 
keyboard mode, the results are yet slightly worse: all three programs hang 
while loading.

I could add that I removed the ISA sound and network cards for this round of 
tests.  Only the PCI video card was installed (though I let stand legacy IRQ 
reservations in the BIOS setup).

I am working with OpenGEM 5, downloaded from 
http://gem.shaneland.co.uk/downloads/complete/OPENGEM5.zip.  This is the 
same version of GEM that runs fine under the same version of FreeDOS (with 
the same updates) on a 486 SX2-50 machine.

As I said in an earlier post, I went into this problem with a computer that 
was running all my DOS games fine in the original more-complex 
configuration, and also served fine as a DOS network client, so there is 
some odd interaction between GEM/GEM Apps and FreeDOS at a low level on this 
machine.  This despite the fact that GEM has always had such minimal 
requirements for hardware and operating system support.

--John Hupp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Michael Devore
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] OpenGEM 5 freezes/hangs/locks on FreeDOS 0.9 SR2


I'm in the middle of working full-time on two different projects, but I
might be able to take a look at this in a week or two.  Probably not sooner
and possibly later.  I'll need a download link for the problematic GEM,
though.  If it's kernel, I likely won't be able to help further.

You might also try EMM386 NOALTBOOT option.  I know GEOS needs that option,
not that it has anything to do with GEM.  Except for starting with a "GE",
so maybe that's it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Eric Auer
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: emm386 idea

hi, you should try without the noems option and/or without the vds option...

eric 



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