On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:09 PM, John R. Sowden
<jsow...@americansentry.net> wrote:
> I understand your comments re: certain type of Ubuntu software.  Ubuntu is
> also worried about providing restricted software and its legal problems for
> a deep pocket.  My comment is in regards to the bandwidth consumption re:
> different tweaks of the license.  Just keep the squeaky clean stuff in the
> main install program, and reference the rest in a separate .zip with the
> appropriate caveats.

Ubuntu has the right to offer it, or wouldn't proceed.

But the Linux community has strong feelings about the issue, and there
are those who will vociferously object to including anything that you
can't get source for.  Canonical, Ubuntu's parent, handles the issue
by carefully separating free and non-free, and making non-free an
option the user can choose to accept.  The default is free software
only.

For that matter, Ubuntu's default GUI is Unity, an attempt at a
"one-size-fits-all" interface that scales from a small screen device
like a tablet to a big monitor.  Ubuntu is the closest thing to a
standard Linux distro these days, because Canonical has taken pains to
produce a distro that figures out what it's being installed on, sets
itself up, and Just Works with minimal involvement from the user.
(That's why I installed it.  I've worked with other distros where
things like video and networking were pains to configure.  With
Ubuntu, I didn't have to.  I could spend my time using it, not
fiddling to *make* it usable.)

One of the things on the default Unity desktop was a link to Amazon.
People screamed bloody murder about it being there.  (It's trivial to
remove.)  Gee, folks.  If you want Linux to be an acceptable choice
for a home machine, it needs to be able to do things home users are
likely to do, and one of those things will be shop at Amazon.  But the
more fanatical and self-righteous members of the community don't seem
to grasp that.

With something like Ubuntu, bandwidth isn't a great concern.  The
implicit assumption is that folks running it have broadband.

For something like FreeDOS, it might be.  My default for a FreeDOS
distro might be "binaries only".  Most folks don't need and couldn't
use the source, so why make it part of the package?  It *should* be
available from the same place you get the base distro, and you can get
it if you need it, but there's no requirement to provide it as part of
the base distro.

The question came up a while back on another open source list, as "Do
I have to provide source for my open source offering with my
binaries?"  The stuff in question was all GPLed code.  My response
was, "No, you don't.  Most folks don't need and can't use the source.
They just want the binaries and docs.  But the essence of the GPL is
that you will *provide* the source if requested, in a form convenient
for the user, and you must *tell* the user you will do so and provide
the source on request."

(It must also be the source you used to create the binaries.  The
intent is that the user can reproduce your build environment, get your
source, and produce a duplicate of what you provided.  So you can't
just point them at your repository, because you've likely made changes
since you issued your binaries, and what the user will get if they
pull from the repository won't be the same code you built from.
Either package it separately for distribution, or provide links to
your repository for the specific revision level you used in building
you code.)

> John
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Dennis

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