Thanks, Liam.

I was looking for the complicated one. :)

Aitor



On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 at 17:22, Liam Proven <lpro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 at 18:12, Aitor Santamaría <aitor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > To those that have used/experience with RUFUS: what is the concept
> behind it?
>
> Um. I am not sure I understand the question. Either it is a very very
> simple question, or a very complicated one.
>
> Simple answer:
>
> Rufus is a Windows tool for making bootable USB keys from ISO images.
>
> Complicated answer:
>
> An "ISO" is a file containing an image of an optical disk (typically a
> CD or a DVD). They are so named because the standard cross platform
> on-disk format for optical media is ISO standard 9660, or ISO9660 for
> short. DOS and DOS-based OSes couldn't support a 7-character file
> extension when the format was ratified.
>
> To make a bootable USB, you need to write a bootloader onto a USB key
> followed by the payload of the OS to be booted. Linux and other non-MS
> OSes usually include this bootloader in the disk image, so you can
> just bit-copy the ISO file to the raw  USB device and it will boot.
>
> (This is partly because they use non-FAT-like filesystems so they put
> a disk image of their native filesystem in the disk image, and a
> bootloader).
>
> Windows ISOs won't, or not always, so you need a tool to install that
> bootloader and then unpack the OS files into an ISO9660 like FS with
> long filename extensions. Because the ISO9660 format is close enough
> to a Windows format, the boot disk doesn't need the fancy virtual
> filesystem stuff, so paradoxically the disk writing tools need to be
> smarter because they need to do _more_ work.
>
> Rufus is a free tool to do this. It is good and reliably makes
> bootable USB keys from Windows ISOs, which Linux tools can't always do
> in my quite extensive experience. However, you need a running Windows
> system _first_ so it poses a chicken-and-egg problem. To install
> Windows you need Windows to make the boot media to load Windows.
> Secondly, Rufus is very _very_ slow. It takes an hour or so. Linux
> takes 5min to write a typical size of disk image.
>
> I regard it as obsolete since I discovered Ventoy. Ventoy does the
> bootup logic internally, so just format a key with Ventoy and copy ISO
> files onto it and it generates a boot menu on the fly and boots DOS or
> Linux or Windows or whatever for you.
>
> Ventoy is great and a huge time saver and it just works, so I don't
> usually use Rufus any more.
>
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