OK, understood.

But when a webservice does execute a command (from scripting) to a SVR
record and the first is not reacable, would it try to do it again or
will handle DNS this in front of it ?

I do a kinit against an IPA server using a keytab after I first
checked if the user was able to auth himself using his ldap
credentials, if so, this kinit exec is fired and I do some CURL stuff
to the IPA server.

That's why I wanted a loadbalancer, the loadbalancer sees if a server
is down and doesn't even try to direct any of the commands to it...
I'm not sure if the SRV will handle this well when doing these command
from PHP for an example. Building in extra checks in front could be
done but it not ideal as a loadbalancer can handle such things much
better.

Thanks!

Cheers,

Matt

2015-03-06 16:41 GMT+01:00 Dmitri Pal <d...@redhat.com>:
> On 03/06/2015 10:24 AM, Matt . wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm really bound to a loadbalancer, as it's HA setup of loadbalancers,
>> SRV won't fit here sorry to say.
>>
>> I auth users, so their keytab should be the same between two masters I
>> believe ?
>
>
> Each entity in Kerberos exchange has its own identity and key.
> If you send a ticket that is destined to service A instead to service B it
> would not work unless they share the same keys and identity. Sharinf same
> keys and identities between the servers just would not work with IPA.
> Keep in mind that IPA clients and server need to work and fail over if you
> do not have any load balancers and this is the common case. You are trying
> to add one where it is really not needed creating overhead for yourself.
>
>
>
>>
>> In that case... I need to add the altnames to the certs, but I'm not
>> 100% there in step 6
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Matthijs
>>
>> 2015-03-06 16:16 GMT+01:00 Petr Spacek <pspa...@redhat.com>:
>>>
>>> On 6.3.2015 15:39, Matt . wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have 2 IPA servers where I kinit to and post to the api using
>>>> curl/json.
>>>
>>> If we are talking purely about scripting, you can use IPA Python API. It
>>> will
>>> handle fail over for you even without any load balancer. That would be
>>> easiest
>>> way.
>>>
>>>> As I need redundancy and don't want to have it script managed, but one
>>>> central point where I can tal to I use a loadbalancer.
>>>
>>> Well, if you can control clients then the easiest and most universal way
>>> is to
>>> use DNS SRV records and add failover logic to clients. That solution
>>> works
>>> even when servers are geographically distributed/in different networks
>>> and
>>> does not have single point of failure (the load balancer).
>>>
>>>> As I connect to the loadbalancer using DNAT, so the client IP is known
>>>> on the IPA server because this is needed for the http service
>>>> principals I need to add the loadbalancer hostname to my IPA server
>>>> and make it as an ALT name to it's Certificate.
>>>>
>>>> As the users are the same on both servers I would asume i can use a
>>>> keytab for a user against both servers from my clients.
>>>
>>> I'm talking about keytabs on the FreeIPA servers - services running on
>>> IPA
>>> server have their own keytabs too. Every service on every server has own
>>> keytab with different key.
>>>
>>> You need to talk with Simo or some other Kerberos guru about possibility
>>> of
>>> sharing keytabs between IPA services.
>>>
>>>> Does this make it more clear ?
>>>
>>> I'm still not sure if you want to have human users too or just API
>>> clients.
>>>
>>> Petr^2 Spacek
>>>
>>>> 2015-03-06 15:31 GMT+01:00 Petr Spacek <pspa...@redhat.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6.3.2015 15:13, Matt . wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But as the user is the same, I could use the same keytab for each ipa
>>>>>> server ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to use the API indeed, so need to issue the http service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other options ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not really understand your use case. Could you describe it in
>>>>> detail, please?
>>>>>
>>>>> Petr^2 Spacek
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-03-06 14:24 GMT+01:00 Petr Spacek <pspa...@redhat.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6.3.2015 14:08, Martin Kosek wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm figuring out how to regenerate the webserver certificates so I
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> use a loadbalancer in front of my ipa servers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you talking about FreeIPA web interface? It is technically
>>>>>>> possible to use
>>>>>>> load-balancer but it will be really hacky. You would have to solve
>>>>>>> certificates and also distribute shared keytabs and so on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would recommend you to use "something" which issues HTTP redirect
>>>>>>> to ipa
>>>>>>> server 1/2/3/4/5 according to current state instead of using
>>>>>>> classical load
>>>>>>> balancer on the network level. Normal HTTP redirect will not force
>>>>>>> you to mess
>>>>>>> with certs and keytabs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Petr^2 Spacek
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Petr Spacek  @  Red Hat
>
>
>
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> Dmitri Pal
>
> Sr. Engineering Manager IdM portfolio
> Red Hat, Inc.
>
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