Thank you very much for your detailed answer to my questions. 
I am in the process of planning an ISP deployment with proxy and local
clients, including wholesale dialup from Qwest, MegaPOP and Aleron,
having multiple RADIUS servers downstream. 
I also will need to have a local authentication scheme for Dial-up, DSL,
and Wireless. I have yet to begin that stage of investigating though,
and any insight into either Wireless Authentication or DSL would be
appreciated. 
No detailed instructions are necessary, only real-world deployments that
have worked or failures. If it's being done, It can be done again with
enough time and persistence. I also believe that if this whole setup
could work over a MySQL backend, administration and maintenance could
benefit from it. Any insight or comments here would be well appreciated
also.


Zack







> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:freeradius-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Franklin Trumpy
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Experience
> 
> Zack W Kneisley wrote:
> 
> > Very Interesting. I have been evaluating Radiator off and on and
find it
> > interesting that you would prefer FreeRADIUS over a $700 Radius
> > solution. Could you give me more insight into this switch? More
details
> > on the AV pairs to certain proxy requests based on
Client-IP-Address?
> > Could you provide any details on the hardware that your setup is
running
> > on?
> >
> > Zack
> 
> FreeRADIUS versus Radiator was a fairly easy decision. First, I
> was already familiar with Cistron RADIUS, and FreeRADIUS was the
natural
> progression. I also found FreeRADIUS simple but flexible, modular and
> graceful in design. The fact that it is open source wasn't a minor
factor
> in my decision, either.
> 
> It is often remarked that documentation for FreeRADIUS is lacking.
> While perhaps there aren't exactly volumes filled with endless
pegagogical
> examples, what _does_ exist is extremely concise and accurate in its
> description of FreeRADIUS functions. If you're willing to read, test,
read
> again, test again, read once more and repeat ad nauseum, it does
contain
> everything you need to know to create just about every possible
> configuration
> for any sceinero. If nothing else, the debug output from the server is
> _exceptionally_ verbose and useful for, well, debugging.
> 
> As for the issue with Client-IP-Address, I was faced with a situation
> where I needed to assign Ascend-Data-Filters to all sessions, both
those
> handled locally and those proxied, when coming from a certain set of
NAS
> 
> I investiated doing this via Radiator. I had "inherited" the Radiator
> installation in question, and it's almost exclusively reliant on a
> rather poorly designed Microsoft SQL database. Every solution to this
> problem that Radiator was able to provide was either clumsy, not
> completely effective, or both. I found myself pushing down bubbles on
> wallpaper.
> 
> Eventually, I used hints, user files, and the configurable failover
> functionality of FreeRADIUS to achieve my objective. Although it
worked, I
> was particularly pleased with the fact that configurable failover gave
me
> the ability to configure FreeRADIUS such that the Ascend-Data-Filters
were
> assigned to all the right Access-Reply packets _AND_ no packets were
> processed by any modules that did not need to process them. No wasted
> processor cycles, memory, time, etc.
> 
> As far as hardware...
> 
> All my FreeRADIUS servers run on Compaq DL380', DL360's, and 1850R's
using
> Intel P3 Xeon-class processors, ranging from 500MHz to 800MHz. All
have
> 512 to
> 1024MB RAM and SCSI disks on RAID 5. The lowest-end of the servers
handles
> tens of thousands of requests a day and never breaks a sweat.
> 
> All the servers are running FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE or 4.7-STABLE.
> 
> Alright, that's enough gushing for one day.
> 
> Franklin
> 
> --
> Franklin Trumpy, NFA, MNGS, GSc | Say not, "I have found the truth,"
> Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator  | but rather, "I have found a truth."
> Lighthouse Communications       |
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                 | Say not, "I have found the path of
the
> soul."
> (515)244-1115                   | Say rather, "I have met the soul
walking
> (888)953-3278                   |   upon my path."
> http://www.lh.net               |
>                                 |         -Kahlil Gibran, _The
Prophet_,
> 1923
>                                 |
> 
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Zack W Kneisley wrote:
> 
> > Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:07:23 -0500
> > From: Zack W Kneisley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Experience
> >
> >
> >
> > Very Interesting. I have been evaluating Radiator off and on and
find it
> > interesting that you would prefer FreeRADIUS over a $700 Radius
> > solution. Could you give me more insight into this switch? More
details
> > on the AV pairs to certain proxy requests based on
Client-IP-Address?
> > Could you provide any details on the hardware that your setup is
running
> > on?
> >
> > Zack
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:freeradius-users-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Franklin Trumpy
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:31 PM
> > > To: Freeradius-Users
> > > Subject: Re: Experience
> > >
> > > I am running three implementations of FreeRADIUS for three
different
> > > purposes. Primarily, I use FreeRADIUS to authenticate, authorize,
and
> > > account for about 750 PPP dial users via SQL(including the session
> > > database), with authentication and authorization failover to a
users
> > file.
> > > These same two RADIUS servers also proxy requests for about 15,000
> > users
> > > to a set of Radiator RADIUS servers, which are, incidentially,
> > scheduled
> > > to be replaced by  FreeRADIUS servers in the next month.
> > >
> > > All told, the 16,000 users arrive from any of about 99 RADIUS
clients,
> > > 80 of which are the proxy RADIUS servers of three wholesale dial
> > vendors
> > > (AT&T, QWest, and UUNet). Those 80 clients proxy requests for
about
> > 500
> > > NAS. The remaining 19 RADIUS clients are NAS controlled by my
> > organization.
> > > FreeRADIUS also serves to add several AV pairs to certain proxy
> > requests
> > > based on Client-IP-Address, a function Radiator RADIUS cannot
easily
> > > handle.
> > >
> > > My second implementation, using two other servers, does AAA for
about
> > > 500 L2TP users via SQL, also failing over to a flatfile in the
event
> > > of loss of database connectivity. There are about 15 "virtual"
RADIUS
> > > clients configured on the one "real" NAS, a Redback SMS 1800.
> > >
> > > The third and final implementation, on its own, single server,
> > provides
> > > AAA for about 200 PPTP users via SQL. Once again, it fails over to
a
> > > flatfile if necessary. The single RADIUS client is a Cisco
3000-series
> > VPN
> > > concentrator where authentication is handled by MS-CHAPv2.
> > >
> > > Three services, five servers, all running a FreeRADIUS CVS
snapshot
> > from
> > > last week, and running just fine.
> > >
> > > Franklin
> > >
> > > --
> > > Franklin Trumpy, NFA, MNGS, GSc | Say not, "I have found the
truth,"
> > > Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator  | but rather, "I have found a
truth."
> > > Lighthouse Communications       |
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]                 | Say not, "I have found the path
of
> > the
> > > soul."
> > > (515)244-1115                   | Say rather, "I have met the soul
> > walking
> > > (888)953-3278                   |   upon my path."
> > > http://www.lh.net               |
> > >                                 |         -Kahlil Gibran, _The
> > Prophet_,
> > > 1923
> > >                                 |
> > >
> > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Zack W Kneisley wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:12:38 -0500
> > > > From: Zack W Kneisley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > To: Freeradius-Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: Experience
> > > >
> > > > I've been watching this list for some time now, and it seems
that
> > > > Freeradius is much more robust than I previously thought. Could
some
> > > > users of this list give me some configuration examples (users
> > served,
> > > > how many NAS's using, Hardware & OS's being used, using sql, how
> > long
> > > > you have been using it ect. ) I have been looking into several
> > different
> > > > radius packages and it seems Freeradius can do almost everything
the
> > > > others can. If you could provide me with successful read-world
> > > > deployments, the pros & cons, I encourage you to post them.
> > > >
> > > > Zack Kneisley
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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