HI Doug
MRI_glmfit-sim didn't recognize the --cwd option

 mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwd .99
ERROR: Flag --cwd unrecognized.
--glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cwd .99






----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:54:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates


I'm sure that those clusters are not very significant. Try running 
mri_glmfit-sim with --cwd .99 to capture all clusters
doug


On 12/12/2013 03:27 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> HI Doug,
> here's a screen shot, showing the clusters and a scatter plot for one of the 
> 45 clusters.
> for this dataset, ussualy there is 0 or 1 clusters after monte carlo 
> simulation.  i'm not sure if they match one of the 45 clusters in qdec. i'l 
> have to  look into that.
>
> I would  like to have a file  which contains the data represented in the 
> scatter plot, for all of the 45 clusters, vlaues of thickness for each 
> subject.  is that possible?
> I tried runnin mri_surfcluster, but it only gave me the average data for that 
> clusters, not the individual data.
>
> thanks!
>
> Jon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:15:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> I'm not sure what is going on. Can you send a screen shot of the qdec
> window when you see 40 clusters? It might be that it is showing clusters
> regardless of the cluster significance. Do the 3 or 4 clusters created
> when you run mri_glmfit-sim match clusters in qdec?
>
> On 12/10/2013 05:32 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> Hi Doug
>> I'm looking at the effect of MJ usage,   the effect of whetherthe subject 
>> has AHDH, and  the interaction between MJ usage and ADHD
>>    our threshold is 1.3
>>
>> i have attahced our qdec.table.dat  file
>> we are also looking at age and gender as covariates
>> Jon
>>
>> Jon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>, Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:20:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>>
>> which contrast are you looking at in QDEC? Also, what is the voxel-wise
>> threshold in QDEC? The value I gave in the command below is 1.3 but I
>> got that from one of your CSD files.
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/2013 05:10 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> HI doug,
>>>     no, the  summary files in the contrasts  have the same # of cluster as 
>>> the columns in their OCN.dat \
>>> the 40 cluster are seen in qdec when I run the  "find cluster" and Goto 
>>> max" button.   most of these clusters go away in qdec when I run the 
>>> montecarlo  simulation
>>>     
>>> Jon
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
>>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:03:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>
>>>
>>> So one of the contrasts has 40 clusters in the summary file but the
>>> y.ocn.dat file only has a few columns?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/10/2013 04:54 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>> yes, that is what we want,  but the files contain only 1-3 columns
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:44:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There should be a column for each cluster in contrast. Is that what you
>>>> want?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/10/2013 04:37 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> I ran
>>>>>       mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 1.3 abs
>>>>>
>>>>> MTA_ADHD_MJ  is my project file and has the results from qdec in it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it has produced:
>>>>>
>>>>> lh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> these files have 120 rows.  each row has a thickness value s
>>>>> example
>>>>>          2.71869
>>>>>          2.52448
>>>>>          2.50450
>>>>>          2.53677
>>>>>          2.58363
>>>>>          2.50404
>>>>>          2.42116
>>>>>          2.61757
>>>>>          2.51820
>>>>>          2.59009
>>>>>          2.42524
>>>>>          2.72043
>>>>>          2.59479
>>>>>          2.38014
>>>>>          2.41052
>>>>>          2.58483
>>>>>          2.49214
>>>>>          2.45870
>>>>>          2.51685
>>>>>          2.62981
>>>>>          2.59232
>>>>>
>>>>> it appears that there is the thickness for each subject in the files
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to have the thickness value, for each cluster, for every 
>>>>> subject
>>>>>
>>>>> we have 120 subjects, with  about 40 clusters
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
>>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:30:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, sorry, I thought qdec was running a script called mri_glmfit-sim but
>>>>> it appears to be running the correction internally. That means that you
>>>>> will have to run mri_glmfit-sim yourself, something like
>>>>>
>>>>> mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir glmdir --cache 1.3 abs
>>>>>
>>>>> doug
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/10/2013 02:53 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>> i have a mri_glmfit.log,(attached)   but no cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log  in 
>>>>>> the qdec output directory
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>, Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:42:37 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log in the output folder? Can you send
>>>>>> it to me? Also, please remember to post to the list. thanks!
>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/10/2013 02:30 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>> FS version 5.3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>, Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:05:26 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hmmm, it should be there. What version of FS are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/10/2013 12:57 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>>> i was getting the values for the command terminal, when I press the 
>>>>>>>> "find clusters and GOTo Max" button on the qdec GUI.
>>>>>>>> there is no file named cache.th20.abs.y.dat or something similar.  i 
>>>>>>>> did a "find" command to list all the  *abs*.dat files in the directory
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> qdec/MTA_ADHD_MJ/lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>> qdec/MTA_ADHD_MJ/lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th20.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> these files  contain:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> # CSD PDF/CDF
>>>>>>>> # simtype null-z
>>>>>>>> # anattype surface  fsaverage lh
>>>>>>>> # FixGroupSubjectArea 1
>>>>>>>> # merged      0
>>>>>>>> # contrast    NA
>>>>>>>> # seed        1271277527
>>>>>>>> # thresh      1.300000
>>>>>>>> # threshsign  0.000000
>>>>>>>> # searchspace 74612.965197
>>>>>>>> # nullfwhm    15.000000
>>>>>>>> # varfwhm     -1.000000
>>>>>>>> # nrepetitions 10000
>>>>>>>> # NOTE: nreps and nrepetitions are both valid for volume data.
>>>>>>>> # NOTE: nreps is invalid (-1) for surface data to assure.
>>>>>>>> # NOTE:   backwards INcompatibility.
>>>>>>>> # $Id: volcluster.c,v 1.50.2.1 2011/03/28 15:32:36 greve Exp $
>>>>>>>> # nreps       -1
>>>>>>>> # FixSurfClusterArea 1
>>>>>>>> # $Id: surfcluster.c,v 1.26.2.2 2011/11/10 16:01:11 greve Exp $
>>>>>>>> # nbins 100
>>>>>>>> # BinNo  MaxClustBin MaxClustPDF MaxClustCDF GRFCDF    MaxSigBin 
>>>>>>>> MaxSigPDF MaxSigCDF
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 5:02:41 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which file did you look in? It should have a name like
>>>>>>>> cache.th20.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/09/2013 05:09 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I found data for the average thickness all subjects for each cluster, 
>>>>>>>>> but I haven't found the individual subject's thickness for each 
>>>>>>>>> cluster.  can you direct me to that data?
>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" <wie...@uwm.edu>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 2:15:39 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is in one of the output files. Look for the .dat file in
>>>>>>>>> mri_glmfit-sim --help
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/09/2013 03:01 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> thanks doug,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've  run a 2x2 analysis for thickness in Qdec and want the get the 
>>>>>>>>>> average thickness value for each cluster, for each subject.
>>>>>>>>>> How can i get a table of thickness data , for feach subject in the 
>>>>>>>>>> analysis
>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 1:48:15 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jon, QDEC does not currently allow more than one covariates of
>>>>>>>>>> interest. You will have to use the command-line stream (ie,
>>>>>>>>>> mris_preproc, mri_surf2surf, mri_glmfit, mri_glmfit-sim)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> doug
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/05/2013 02:57 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> HI freesurfer experts
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I want to do an analysis in qdec with 2 groups(ADHD, and Marijuana 
>>>>>>>>>>> usage)  and 2 covariates(age and gender) to study the effect of 
>>>>>>>>>>> these factors on cortical thickness. I can only select a covariate 
>>>>>>>>>>> in the qdec gui.  is there a way to select both covariates in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> qdec GUI?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>

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